Originally Posted by
Hamster
This faggot in that article is getting his numbers from "reported security flaws," i.e. handholds in network protocol and operating system code that have a possibility of being exploited. The entire fucking premise of a Unix-based OS is for members of the open source community to provide feedback on the operating system, resulting in more robust overall security. You know why Windows operating systems aren't getting as many of these feedback reports? Because it's a fucking over-proprietary piece of shit operating system that only gets security patches once shit has already hit the fan (See: WindowsNT).
So yes. Mac OS 10.5 took more shots at the doctor's office. Clearly that means that Windows, which took less shots, because its mother refused to listen to its teacher telling her that it was coughing and sneezing in class, is a healthier operating system.
Fucking worthless article.
/rant
You're aware that Mac OS is mainly a Proprietary closed-source OS, much like Windows, aren't you? Just because a small number of its components are open source doesn't make it open-source. It doesn't even begin to qualify for an open-source license, that's why you don't get to study the code for the Mac system, in that regard, it follows a very similar closed source heavily-commercial philosophy with that of Windows. So don't over-exploit that fallacious argument.
If one outsider were to read your post without paying attention to the subject, he would've thought that you're talking about Linux where you have access to all code, and its community-based, where everybody - including the random dude down the block - is working to develop/improve the system. It's simply not like that. And Mac and Linux, although both are under the Unix umbrella, are like opposites of that spectrum.
So the members of a "open source" community couldn't help more even if they wanted to. Secunia has been known to identify enormous threats and security faults in Windows systems, as well as many specific problems found in closed and open-source Software.
Some other article:
http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit-...safe-you-think
And that's also true for Linux. I always warn people that NO system is secure, and its very dangerous to be convinced of the contrary (that applies to developers too). Everybody should make an effort to keep it as safe as they can by not risking the integrity of system too much. And right now, I suspect that it'll start to hurt seriously for iPhones, macs and even Linux distributions, as they are getting popular by the day.
PS: You know what over-proprietary is? Apart from not providing the source code, its also not allowing customers to pick their own machines and hardware. That's over-proprietary.
Originally Posted by
H4rl3quin
i hope that the above posts outlined why you're wrong to you =)
No it didn't as they were built on the fallacy that the open source community can do something about a close-source system such as Mac OS... From this assumption, I think quite a lot of things fail on your argument.
And don't get me wrong. I still would've preferred Mac (if there really was a freedom of use on a multitude of machines) to a Windows system, as I think that Windows monopolistic position has prevented the industry to grow, as *everything* spins around Windows, and Windows Vista was one of the biggest flops ever in history of Windows, as a result of that ingenuity and abuse of competition laws.
Personally, I use Linux. And even in Linux, I try not to believe that I'm 100% safe. Its just not a good policy, I've learned that in the few years that I'm alive.
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Jun 18, 2010 at 02:07 PM.