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Old Dec 27, 2015   #1
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Duel/Wager match Rules and Guidelines
A Duel:
A fight between two people that usually includes the use of weapons (such as guns or swords) or their own bodies. Usually happens while other people watch.
A Wager:
Something risked or staked on an uncertain event. (Eg, Items or TC)

Things to Remember
- Original agreement includes, what items you are dueling for, and how many games you are going to play. Keep a record of this agreement (Ideally, take a screenshot of the rules and the agreement between parties).

- After each fight, announce the score and take screens.

- Standard ingame rules apply. Don't expect help if you flame, kick or mute your opponents.

- Give your opponent a few minutes (or whatever time is reasonable in the circumstances) to send the payment. Payments should be sent immediately though and waiting a long time will probably get you banned on suspicion of scamming.

- If you're using the /duel mode and there is a glitch that sinks the TC, you can only get a refund for the TC taken from your account by the glitch.

- Dueling with items or TC you don't have in your account is considered a scam. Before you start the duel, have the prize in the account you are dueling with.

- Check your opponent's inventory before you duel them. You won't be able to win items or TC which they don't have.


Rules for Duels
1. Wagers must be verifiably owned quantities which can be legitimately transferred between the two players immediately after a duel. (Textures cannot be verifiably owned as of yet, nor can USD or other forms of "real" currency. One cannot use duelling as a basis to transfer qi, or bypass qi or other trade restrictions on items.)

2. The agreement to the duel should be accepted by both parties and screenshotted by both parties to that effect. Any changes made to the mod or game rules (e.g. realtimeghosts) must be stated and agreed to by both parties - screenshots of the agreement and any such statements will be required, else the duel may be considered invalid. Lack of evidence may be prevent us from providing appropriate punishments/compensation in the case of a grievance.

3. Duels should be of a competitive nature, based in skill and not luck. Duels such as "1 match of wtf.tbm" will not be supported. Any mod is allowed, but 3 games is recommended.

4. If a player disconnects during a duel, it is counted as a loss for the disconnecting player, unless they both agree to have a rematch. In the event of a player who either intentionally or accidentally cannot complete the match, they will be considered in violation of the duelling agreement, and forfeit the duel as a whole.

5. We cannot and will not support "soft" rules such as "no shovel" or "no running", due to the ambiguous nature of the terms. Change the mod to favor the tactics you would prefer to see in the duel, such as adding or removing the dojo. Any duel made on the basis of a soft rule will be discarded in the case of a report, unless it was done abusively, in which case the offending party will be banned.

6. In the event of an agreed upon duel with a provable winner that follows all of the above rules, the prize will be guaranteed (to a reasonable, best-effort extent) by the Toribash administration. The loser of the duel is obligated to send the prize, and in the event of their failure to do so, they will be punished and the prize will be sent for them.

7. The definition of the best-effort clause does not include the creation of new items or TC, and in the event that it would be unsightly or difficult to acquire the agreed upon items from the responsible party, other items or TC may be appropriated instead. This is done on a case-by-case basis, as necessary, based on market value of the agreed upon items or TC.

8. If non-standard settings are used, both parties must be aware of the changes before the duel starts. Should unconventional settings be used, such as advantageous gravity settings, the duel will be void, winnings returned and the responsible party for using unfair settings is liable for a ban.

For useful scam prevention information, see here.
For more info on our policy regarding refunds and other payment methods, see here.


Please use Scam Reports for any Duel/Wager related Scams or Glitches



Please use General Reports for any Behaviour complaints
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Old Aug 6, 2017   #2
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what if someone pings before time has passed I.E before there was movement.
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Old Aug 6, 2017   #3
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Originally Posted by deathf View Post
what if someone pings before time has passed I.E before there was movement.

Then it would not count to the score and you would redo it.


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Old Aug 6, 2017   #4
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Originally Posted by deathf View Post
what if someone pings before time has passed I.E before there was movement.

as soon as 1 frame passes , the match is active so even IF the match just just started and like 5 frames passed and u ping the other person gets a point.


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Old Aug 10, 2017   #5
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I have had a situation on the past that is not specified in these rules.

So i duel this guy, 300k vs full 512. I saw he is scammer and dosen't have the item but i said, lets do it. At least i get the sucker banned.
When i loose i ask to show me proof that he owns the item that were promissed in case i win (wich he diden't have on any accounts)
The sweet staffs made me pay a scammer 300k because he fueled item he did not have and won.
I don't think that is fair...

And why are first to 1 in wtf.tbm not supported. I means that people can scam wo repercusion? I think any agreed duel should be valid

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Old Aug 11, 2017   #6
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Originally Posted by Insanity View Post
I have had a situation on the past that is not specified in these rules.

So i duel this guy, 300k vs full 512. I saw he is scammer and dosen't have the item but i said, lets do it. At least i get the sucker banned.
When i loose i ask to show me proof that he owns the item that were promissed in case i win (wich he diden't have on any accounts)
The sweet staffs made me pay a scammer 300k because he fueled item he did not have and won.
I don't think that is fair...


And why are first to 1 in wtf.tbm not supported. I means that people can scam wo repercusion? I think any agreed duel should be valid

If you actually knew that the other party didn't had the wagers, then you should've reported him for scam attempt, and not duel him in the first place. Refusing to send the wagers even though the other party didn't had the promised wagers, it's also considered scam and can get both parties banned.

1 match of wtf.tbm is not supported, but that doesn't mean that we will not handle the case (depending of the MS discretion), take loans as an example.
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Old Aug 18, 2017   #7
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1 match of wtf.tbm is valid if both players agree on it.
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Old Aug 18, 2017   #8
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I'm not familiar with what "wtf.tbm" is, but provided it's equal on both sides, we support duels on it. We won't support duels on mods like lolnade3fast where one player has a distinct advantage of another built into the mod itself. Or any other unclear shenanigans like messing with game rules of popular mods discreetly prior to someone entering.
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Old Sep 12, 2017   #9
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I dueled redblast0 for my hand texture for 20k tc I dueled him won the he didn't give me the 20k he refuses to even give me 1k
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Old Sep 13, 2017   #10
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@UnUntrue
If you have any Screenshots, or other ways to prove he scammed you, please post it in the Scam Report section here: http://forum.toribash.com/forumdisplay.php?f=518
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