Originally Posted by
Ele
Member limits - If a clan is formed for the sole purpose of de facto raising the member cap of another clan, then sure, ban that. You don't need to ban 'multi-clans' to do this, simply make a rule that says 'Abuse of the membercap system will not be tolerated'. Then, if it ever does happen that a clan is created to raise the membercap of another, you can stop them under that rule.
Oh so if they don't
mean to abuse the membercap, and it was just a coincidence that it happened that way, then everything cool! We can trust your intentions, yeah?
lol
basic was right:
Originally Posted by
basic
imagine if every official clan had a feeder clan
don't you think this community is too small for this kind of thing?
This isn't a "Slippery slope fallacy," it's absolutely true. You use that to say, "wow they're instituting a curfew at night in my city, next thing you know they'll have shitting schedules for us!" is bullshit. A -/> B. In this case, you don't have two different things going on
Allowing feeder clans absolutely means
people will make feeder-clans. I mentioned this in the other thread, but the community is, at best, like 1500 members. Once one clan figures out they can supersize their membercount, others will too. Every old staff clan can make their own cute little feederclan, potentially doubling their membercount. The example I posed in the other thread, 5 or 6 clans having almost 50% of the toribash community in their ranks, is extreme, but normalizing feeder-clans will absolutely stratify the community, whether you want to accept it or not.
The solution to that is limiting membercap somewhere else, whether that means having a feeder clan puts you out 30 spots in your parent clan, or vice versa. Frankly, it'd be easier to be able to have ranks in your main clan that don't show tags
As you propose it, a feederclan is especially harmful because it 1.) doesn't rely on its own reputation to get members (applications to the feederclan hinge on the reputation of it's parent, official, clan), and 2.) because the parent clan can force any old joe into it because, in your words:
Originally Posted by
Ele
Parakeet would house players we wouldn't accept into Parrot. Point of Parakeet would be to build them up to that Parrot standard...
we don't want a chunk of our clan filled with people who we feel don't meet our standard.
Originally Posted by
Ele
Potential to play twice in clan events - If they're two seperate clans, with two seperate memberlists, I don't see the problem. If you suspect collusion would happen, ban collusion.
Which one is it, are they two seperate clans or is one just a list of not-quite-good enoughs that the parent clan is molding into acceptable little soldiers. You can't have it both ways, my dude. The whole concept of a feeder-clan implies that the parent clan is intimately involved in the affairs of the feeder-clan by definition.
The only solution to that is making it so feeder-clans can't participate in any events at all.
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Last edited by Arctic; Nov 23, 2017 at 05:17 AM.
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