But Naut and Blitz almost play the exact same.
if you look at the abilities, they both have grabs. They both have shields. They both have moves that launch enemies into the air. The only thing that changes is the ultimate and one of the abilities in which Blitz would have the passive 100+ damage lightning bolts every 2.5 seconds and active his 150+ crowd control damage and Naut has his undodgeable depth charge which accounts for lost speed that blitz has as one of his abilities.
They both build tanky as well.
The reason why I picked Blitz over Naut is because Naut was 1. Slower and 2. It required lots of adc interaction.
Blitz is fast enough to catch opponents and can do tons of damage without adc interaction until he finishes his grab, power punch, and ultimate damage.
I don't see how Naut has a very different change from Blitz. As a support, his goal is to pick champions and damage them enough for your adc to kill them like you stated, but that's not the only thing he does. If the opponents are warding, they can see him. Once you establish that you are a dangerous threat to the opponents, they'll be stepping back and trying to bait you into hooking. With naut, it's dangerous. If you hit a tower or the wall, you'll pull yourself towards them and potentially die. With blitz, this doesn't happen. The worst annoyance you can have is minions and if you play you cards right, it'll be easy.
Naut has it's advantages. But Blitz isn't completely shit like you think he is. All they really require is that the ADC adapts to you and changes their strategy. Which tbh, they don't really do :/
if you look at the abilities, they both have grabs. They both have shields. They both have moves that launch enemies into the air. The only thing that changes is the ultimate and one of the abilities in which Blitz would have the passive 100+ damage lightning bolts every 2.5 seconds and active his 150+ crowd control damage and Naut has his undodgeable depth charge which accounts for lost speed that blitz has as one of his abilities.
They both build tanky as well.
The reason why I picked Blitz over Naut is because Naut was 1. Slower and 2. It required lots of adc interaction.
Blitz is fast enough to catch opponents and can do tons of damage without adc interaction until he finishes his grab, power punch, and ultimate damage.
I don't see how Naut has a very different change from Blitz. As a support, his goal is to pick champions and damage them enough for your adc to kill them like you stated, but that's not the only thing he does. If the opponents are warding, they can see him. Once you establish that you are a dangerous threat to the opponents, they'll be stepping back and trying to bait you into hooking. With naut, it's dangerous. If you hit a tower or the wall, you'll pull yourself towards them and potentially die. With blitz, this doesn't happen. The worst annoyance you can have is minions and if you play you cards right, it'll be easy.
Naut has it's advantages. But Blitz isn't completely shit like you think he is. All they really require is that the ADC adapts to you and changes their strategy. Which tbh, they don't really do :/
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So we got Lucian, Yi, Fiora*, Zed and Leona for project skins?
Fixed. Riven already got new skin on next patch (Tomorrow).
Edited: I'm correct. Project Fiora
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Oracle can prove you wrong on your opinion about Blitzcrank.
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Anyone who actually knows how to play blitzcrank can prove him wrong on his opinion. Every support is reliant on adc followup, you cannot use teammate followup as arguments for support viability. If that were the case, every support is horrible is your adc doesn't follow up, aside from passive supports who don't excel at engaging (janna comes to mind).
Blitzcrank not only applies incredible zoning potential. Sitting in a bush waiting to land a hook is one of the worst ways you can play blitzcrank. Let your adc farm in peace, distract your opponent from farming by making them focus on dodging your hook, and give your adc the advantage he needs. Lane pressure isn't only damaging and poking until they back away.
But that's not what blitzcrank is only good at. He can bring so much pressure in mid to late game. Sure he doesn't bring the best abilities for teamfights, but he's not actually meant to teamfight that well. His job is speeding around in front of the enemy team and picking one of them off for your team to destroy. He's made to start a teamfight with the enemy team missing a teammate. Here zoning applies too, you can bet that they will be staring at you waiting for you to hook so they can dodge it, so keep the pressure up, and when you see them straying from their focus to defend a tower or to hit your tower, pull the weakest one you can get your hands on and voila, that's an enemy team member dead (considering your team follows up, which you can't argue that they might not, since this is the late game and they sure as hell want that mid laner/adc/whoever isn't that tanky dead).
If you can't figure out how to do those things, you are the one who isn't playing him how he should be played, not him being bad.
Only good point Hyde actually made about the matter is that at lower elo, blitzcrank is indeed not the best choice, not only because of team reliability, but also you not being to utilize him to his full potential. Unless you know, you practice him a bunch,
Seriously I could've gone on and on if it weren't for this godforsaken exam I'm studying for. I'll bet oracle will be ready to inflict a massive post filled with joyful beep boopiness upon us any time soon.
Blitzcrank not only applies incredible zoning potential. Sitting in a bush waiting to land a hook is one of the worst ways you can play blitzcrank. Let your adc farm in peace, distract your opponent from farming by making them focus on dodging your hook, and give your adc the advantage he needs. Lane pressure isn't only damaging and poking until they back away.
But that's not what blitzcrank is only good at. He can bring so much pressure in mid to late game. Sure he doesn't bring the best abilities for teamfights, but he's not actually meant to teamfight that well. His job is speeding around in front of the enemy team and picking one of them off for your team to destroy. He's made to start a teamfight with the enemy team missing a teammate. Here zoning applies too, you can bet that they will be staring at you waiting for you to hook so they can dodge it, so keep the pressure up, and when you see them straying from their focus to defend a tower or to hit your tower, pull the weakest one you can get your hands on and voila, that's an enemy team member dead (considering your team follows up, which you can't argue that they might not, since this is the late game and they sure as hell want that mid laner/adc/whoever isn't that tanky dead).
If you can't figure out how to do those things, you are the one who isn't playing him how he should be played, not him being bad.
Only good point Hyde actually made about the matter is that at lower elo, blitzcrank is indeed not the best choice, not only because of team reliability, but also you not being to utilize him to his full potential. Unless you know, you practice him a bunch,
Seriously I could've gone on and on if it weren't for this godforsaken exam I'm studying for. I'll bet oracle will be ready to inflict a massive post filled with joyful beep boopiness upon us any time soon.
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