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I mean like, ABD is so easy to learn, competitive... fun... But other mods are so much more different? Other mods are just so unique and different not everyone can master them. It's like if I said to the Obey clan
We're better than you, war us.
If we had a war in 000skateboard (Yeah that's a mod) And we won, does that make us better? Of course not. There just not good at that.
Did you make this post in 3 minutes? I don't think you looked over the facts.
We're better than you, war us.
If we had a war in 000skateboard (Yeah that's a mod) And we won, does that make us better? Of course not. There just not good at that.
Did you make this post in 3 minutes? I don't think you looked over the facts.
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Most people now do play very cheese-like. I know like back in 2009-2012 is when most people had fun playing tb (i know i joined in 2013 not trying to act all expierienced or anything) but now people cheese all the time. I do agree with DrHax though, if you keep getting beat by a cheese move, learn to counter it and dont just start whining about it. You dont really see poeple duel in mods like wushu, tk, or rk-mma anymore that much or atleast i dont. But people duel in these 3 mods: ABD, boxshu mushu, and lenshu3ng. Wonder why? Because these mods are extremely easy to cheese people in. In ABD theres snapkicks, kicklifts, podding, pointholding, decap opening, lifting, shoveling etc. But trust me its not hard to counter these moves. Duelers just get graat at cheesing then find people who dont know how to counter cheese moves and make money off them. Then some of those duelers can rack up millions of TC, sell it, buy a booster, farm off the booster, then rack up even more tc, then sell that, buy a better booster, and keep the cycle going until they get to an OP booster and can basically farm irl money. And alot of duels these days are in boxshu mushu. All the mod is is cheesing. All people do is rush, pointhold, get lucky, skeet, etc. And in this mod, its very hard to counter people who are amazing cheesers. If you can get great at that mod, you're set. And lenshu3ng, this is the mod you'll need the most skill in to play (out of the 3 mods) You need to know how to comeback, get points, and block, etc. But every mod has their cheese moves, you can run, rush, pointhold, etc. in lenshu.
I see people dueling 100k-500k sometimes in duelmode. Thats about 12-60+ USD per duel. And all they do is cheese. I really dont blame them if theyre risking that much. But it would be better to see it be played without cheeses. Ive cheesed before myself quite a bit and i still do it sometimes so im not perfect or anything. This is just my 2 cents on the topic.
I see people dueling 100k-500k sometimes in duelmode. Thats about 12-60+ USD per duel. And all they do is cheese. I really dont blame them if theyre risking that much. But it would be better to see it be played without cheeses. Ive cheesed before myself quite a bit and i still do it sometimes so im not perfect or anything. This is just my 2 cents on the topic.
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Its a process of evolution really.
People say ABD was better back in 'the day'. What they really mean is that there was no metagame and people had to improv a lot of stuff.
So yes, ABD is not what it used to be. Is it worse? No.
Look at League of Legends. 'Back in the day', everyone played adc on all lanes or whatever, because nobody knew how to play efficiently. Over time, through natural selection, the current meta evolved and dominated.
You don't have to follow the meta, but if you don't you will probably lose.
This also makes you wonder why people complain about meta so much: if they really wanted to win they'd adhere to it or develop it. Otherwise why the hell are you moaning?
Returning to the original posts question: are there better mods which have less cheesing?
The answer is no, every mod has cheese, because natural selection develops its own metagame. When two players are playing to win, the winner shouldn't be abused for using a cheap move. It's not like the other guy somehow started the match with a special rule from hampa saying he can't kick or rush or run or whatever it was that lost him the match.
In my opinion nograb mods are actually worse because there is no effective counterplay to a run + camp strategy; its a stagnant meta, there's no room for competitive development. That's why I always want new features to be added to this game, I enjoy seeing metas develop and change over time.
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Actually speaking about metas and ABD, I personally think the ABD meta is the best from all the 'popular' mods. There is actually no opener or move that doesn't have at least one counter. If you can think of one, tell me please.
People say ABD was better back in 'the day'. What they really mean is that there was no metagame and people had to improv a lot of stuff.
So yes, ABD is not what it used to be. Is it worse? No.
Look at League of Legends. 'Back in the day', everyone played adc on all lanes or whatever, because nobody knew how to play efficiently. Over time, through natural selection, the current meta evolved and dominated.
You don't have to follow the meta, but if you don't you will probably lose.
This also makes you wonder why people complain about meta so much: if they really wanted to win they'd adhere to it or develop it. Otherwise why the hell are you moaning?
Returning to the original posts question: are there better mods which have less cheesing?
The answer is no, every mod has cheese, because natural selection develops its own metagame. When two players are playing to win, the winner shouldn't be abused for using a cheap move. It's not like the other guy somehow started the match with a special rule from hampa saying he can't kick or rush or run or whatever it was that lost him the match.
In my opinion nograb mods are actually worse because there is no effective counterplay to a run + camp strategy; its a stagnant meta, there's no room for competitive development. That's why I always want new features to be added to this game, I enjoy seeing metas develop and change over time.
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Actually speaking about metas and ABD, I personally think the ABD meta is the best from all the 'popular' mods. There is actually no opener or move that doesn't have at least one counter. If you can think of one, tell me please.
Last edited by Fear; Sep 3, 2014 at 01:15 AM.
