Well... Even though I will never commit suicide, sometimes it is pussy because they THINK there life is bad but it is actually a normal/good life
But sometimes they commit suicide because they are suffering... For example...
There was an handicap man that was in pain, he could not walk, move some of his limbs, and he could not talk like normal people, this is how I remember it... He asked his life to be put down, but they denied it, so he starved himself to death, basically people commit suicide because they think it is the only way to get out of there problems, this is my thought about it
Even though it is not right, people do it anyway
But sometimes they commit suicide because they are suffering... For example...
There was an handicap man that was in pain, he could not walk, move some of his limbs, and he could not talk like normal people, this is how I remember it... He asked his life to be put down, but they denied it, so he starved himself to death, basically people commit suicide because they think it is the only way to get out of there problems, this is my thought about it
Even though it is not right, people do it anyway
I'm ready for my daily dose of cringe ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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I'll take a stab at this. I know countless people who have struggled through severe depression and or suicidal thoughts. Some have even go to the extent to actually commit suicide, but I'd rather not speak on that. I've also experienced various degrees of depression in my life, but not to the degree of some of my friends and people I've met.
Us guys here in Oblivion actually had a long discussion about this topic, although it was more just talking about our experiences/our friends experiences with it. but for the sake of what you'd like to discuss, I won't go into any farther detail.
Is Suicide an ethical option?: I don't think suicide would be what some would call "ethical", but I do believe it can be truely necessary (I'm using this word somewhat reluctantly) in some situations, and the decision would be up to the person experiencing these problems. The thing is, in the worst cases, usually the person contemplating suicide doesn't have some place/somewhere to go. So it's quite simply pretty silly to discuss what they do, because there is nothing we can change about that sadly.
Is suicide selfish?: No. But I agree with what Kitten stated on that matter. This is the common thought from people who have no experience with severe depression.
I'm sorry to hear about all of that monkey, I'm glad you got the help you needed. And Deak, I see your point, but some of those statements you made were offensive and unnecessary. In fact, there are many, many very intelligent people(More intelligent than yourself, no matter how ridiculous that may seem) who contemplate or commit suicide, and some of the issue even becomes a matter of an existential crisis. I know this from speaking to a couple close friends of mine.
I would go more in depth, but I'm quite tired and need to get some rest.
Us guys here in Oblivion actually had a long discussion about this topic, although it was more just talking about our experiences/our friends experiences with it. but for the sake of what you'd like to discuss, I won't go into any farther detail.
Is Suicide an ethical option?: I don't think suicide would be what some would call "ethical", but I do believe it can be truely necessary (I'm using this word somewhat reluctantly) in some situations, and the decision would be up to the person experiencing these problems. The thing is, in the worst cases, usually the person contemplating suicide doesn't have some place/somewhere to go. So it's quite simply pretty silly to discuss what they do, because there is nothing we can change about that sadly.
Is suicide selfish?: No. But I agree with what Kitten stated on that matter. This is the common thought from people who have no experience with severe depression.
I'm sorry to hear about all of that monkey, I'm glad you got the help you needed. And Deak, I see your point, but some of those statements you made were offensive and unnecessary. In fact, there are many, many very intelligent people(More intelligent than yourself, no matter how ridiculous that may seem) who contemplate or commit suicide, and some of the issue even becomes a matter of an existential crisis. I know this from speaking to a couple close friends of mine.
I would go more in depth, but I'm quite tired and need to get some rest.
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Originally Posted by Deakster
I was picked on, I was hated, I was pushed away from my family, and I thought I never would have anyone..
i lived 6 years of my life on my own, no one to talk to, no one liked me... I attempted so many times to kill myself, but know what, I AM GLAD I DIDN'T. I had the balls and the power unlike most stupid people then to kill myself.
Now look at me, I got a beautiful girl, my own mother is proud of me same with my dad, and I have tons of friends. Plus, I am about to be in the Marines.
Do not tell me you cannot overpower bullyness, that is stupid. Look at me..
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Plus, that's why I strive for attention. I never had it as a kid/pre-teen, but now that I am getting it, I want more to fix what it was like as a kid. That's why.
Watch out, we got a cis-privileged badass over here!
He overcame bullying and you can too!
Originally Posted by Kitten
I'm gonna have to ask you to not make blatantly offensive and idiotic statements such as "That bitch deserved to die anyway.
I understand that, in many cases, bullying is a solvable problem that can be overcome with help. Not every case is like this. Not everyone has help and support nor the mental strength to so it alone. Additionally, im not sure why bullying is being focused on by you and others. Many other reasons exist, and i would consider several of them more.....well, for lack of a better word, legitimate reasons than bullying.
There is something I noticed in my life though. If people who went through that I did, did what I did by not killing themselves, would grow up to be the following:
A outcast to life, a person who just wants to be left alone alot, and is always shy to talk and meet other people. They wait for the person to come to them before they become talkitive with others around them.(Like my girl... I had to get a homie to tell her to talk to me, because I did not have the will power to talk to her on my own).
A person who tries their best to fit in, and strives for attention. Try to get back what they never received as a child/pre-teen.
Trust me, it is true. I know 3 people who grew up with the same shit that I did, and they do everything I just listed. You can tell by how someone acts if they was bullied or not. It's not hard, you can tell if someone went to the point of suicidal, but fought back.
As I stated earlier, the people who do kill themselves just didn't have the power at all, and died as a weak soul, as a weak person for not conquering their problems like I did.
