You shouldn't negatively generalize all fat people just because one person thought it was the right decision to cause a scene. Passive smoking won't give you a heart attack, eating a lot of burgers will.
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I can't read. sowy <_<
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"Obesity can be caused by many factors, some of which cannot be helped.
Some psychological causes can be treated, but saying that it is their fault is stupid."
This is one of the biggest jokes people come up with, very very very few people, aside of those with severe mental disorders(down sydrome comes to mind) have any extra challenge, other than maybe a slower metabolism, when it comes to losing weight. There may be a lot of factors that go into being overweight, but hey are all changeable and at the end of the day it is a life style choice.
Also my first post wasn't about smoking, it was about being publicly called out on it, while Americans have become so sympathetic to the obesity "epidemic" that it has become a social norm.
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Incapability to be active. Nope, that is an excuse. Except in extreme cases. Hormonal imbalance, another excuse, it plays a part in your weight loss/gain but if its not combined with other factors it becomes a minor factor. Slow metabolism, excuse, it's only slow because said person let it get that slow. And lucky for them it can speed up. Discourages a healthy diet? Oh you mean complete lack of self control? Stack excuses on top of excuses and think it oks
Some psychological causes can be treated, but saying that it is their fault is stupid."
This is one of the biggest jokes people come up with, very very very few people, aside of those with severe mental disorders(down sydrome comes to mind) have any extra challenge, other than maybe a slower metabolism, when it comes to losing weight. There may be a lot of factors that go into being overweight, but hey are all changeable and at the end of the day it is a life style choice.
Also my first post wasn't about smoking, it was about being publicly called out on it, while Americans have become so sympathetic to the obesity "epidemic" that it has become a social norm.
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Originally Posted by Muur
In regards to the situation, both parties are guilty. He has no right to judge you for smoking (unless you're like blowing smoke right in his or his kid's face), and you have no right to judge him or his son for being overweight.
Obesity isn't usually a choice. There are many factors that go into people being overweight. It isn't just inactivity and high calorie diets, although I'm sure there are some cases where that is the sole reason for obesity. Not all societies are set up in a way that is supportive of a healthy lifestyle. The biggest example would be America.
Contrary to popular belief, Americans take less time off, work longer hours, and retire later than almost any other industrialized country's citizens. With less time to be active, people find that as their wallets begin to fatten so are they.
American's also face the challenge of finding normal, healthy sized food portions. Practically any place that serves food sells meals that should only be appropriate for two or more people. Not to mention the availability of healthy restaurants and fast food is scarce. The closest healthy restaurant to me is 50 minutes away, whereas the closest unhealthy one is 5. The cost and availability of healthy foods discourages a healthy diet, and more and more people are finding it more economical and convenient to consume crap.
Obesity also tends to run in the family. There have been studies of identical twins that were raised apart which show weight is strongly influenced by genetics. Not to mention children tend to develop the habits of their parents. When they see the people they want to emulate stuffing their face and then sitting down and watching TV for a few hours, what do you think they're going to start to do? Genes also come into play with health conditions which can cause weight gains through incapability to be active, hormonal imbalance, slowed metabolism, and side effects from medication.
There are a few more factors, but I think my point has been given. I mean what you guys are saying is equivalent to "Let's hate on everyone who causes the slightest bit of annoyance to us no matter how much control they have over the situation." I encourage a healthy lifestyle, but you shouldn't force one upon someone. They just need to realize the benefits and make the change themselves.
Incapability to be active. Nope, that is an excuse. Except in extreme cases. Hormonal imbalance, another excuse, it plays a part in your weight loss/gain but if its not combined with other factors it becomes a minor factor. Slow metabolism, excuse, it's only slow because said person let it get that slow. And lucky for them it can speed up. Discourages a healthy diet? Oh you mean complete lack of self control? Stack excuses on top of excuses and think it oks
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Originally Posted by Banned
Americans have become so sympathetic to the obesity "epidemic" that it has become a social norm.
That's why there's so much pressure to lose weight right? You seem to want to bully people into losing weight, which is stupid. Obesity has become prevalent because of how society has changed. Cheap, fattening food has replaced wholesome foods and technology has created a more sedentary lifestyle for many people. Obesity is a side affect of these changes, so chalking it up to "lazy people who just stuff their faces" is moronic. If you want to fight obesity, you have to address societal issues first.
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So how do we change this? Other than stopping with the excuses and sympathy. Stop giving people the "its not your fault" attitude.
Well I think we have to start with children. Do you remember high school gym class? Wow that class was a joke, America could start by redoing the curriculum, kid know exercise and dieting is good, but they don't know why. They don't know about nutrition and nobody is teaching them. Gym was always, do stretches(check out the girls at this time of course), a low amount of push ups and sit ups(do the push ups on your knees if you want, if you can't do sit ups quit whenever you're mildly uncomfortable), sport of the day or run. Oh its dodgeball? Girls walk up to the line and practically get tagged out, overweight/nonathletic kids go ahead and try you'll be sitting down in 2 minutes. Athletic gym tryhards get to play for another 5 minutes till next game.
How about instead we teach our kids something, I think we were required to run the mile 4 times a year? Never did they keep track to see if you progressed. Not once did my teacher try to teach better running form/technique, never did we learn about why eating 200g of carbs is bad for you, or how to create a healthy diet. Or how working out in different ways effects your body differently. I don't know if this is every gym class, but I was in two high schools both were about the same. I'm sure there is a stand out teacher somewhere, but is this the normal high school gym class?
Thellian at the end of the day obesity is a life style choice, outside of extreme examples of course. Also, this is not a scientific fact just a general observation, but I don't know that many in shape people who sympathies with fatties, just like I don't know many former fatties who have sympathy for people not making active attempts to change. If you're fat and are making efforts to lose the weight, like showing up to my gym. I wont make fun of you, I have nothing but respect for those people. I'll even offer tips on form if they are way off. I'll give that person props because I'm sure it takes more for someone overweight to get on a treadmill around 20 other people than it does for joe schmo 140 pounds 5'11.
Well I think we have to start with children. Do you remember high school gym class? Wow that class was a joke, America could start by redoing the curriculum, kid know exercise and dieting is good, but they don't know why. They don't know about nutrition and nobody is teaching them. Gym was always, do stretches(check out the girls at this time of course), a low amount of push ups and sit ups(do the push ups on your knees if you want, if you can't do sit ups quit whenever you're mildly uncomfortable), sport of the day or run. Oh its dodgeball? Girls walk up to the line and practically get tagged out, overweight/nonathletic kids go ahead and try you'll be sitting down in 2 minutes. Athletic gym tryhards get to play for another 5 minutes till next game.
How about instead we teach our kids something, I think we were required to run the mile 4 times a year? Never did they keep track to see if you progressed. Not once did my teacher try to teach better running form/technique, never did we learn about why eating 200g of carbs is bad for you, or how to create a healthy diet. Or how working out in different ways effects your body differently. I don't know if this is every gym class, but I was in two high schools both were about the same. I'm sure there is a stand out teacher somewhere, but is this the normal high school gym class?
Thellian at the end of the day obesity is a life style choice, outside of extreme examples of course. Also, this is not a scientific fact just a general observation, but I don't know that many in shape people who sympathies with fatties, just like I don't know many former fatties who have sympathy for people not making active attempts to change. If you're fat and are making efforts to lose the weight, like showing up to my gym. I wont make fun of you, I have nothing but respect for those people. I'll even offer tips on form if they are way off. I'll give that person props because I'm sure it takes more for someone overweight to get on a treadmill around 20 other people than it does for joe schmo 140 pounds 5'11.
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I don't know if this is every gym class, but I was in two high schools both were about the same. I'm sure there is a stand out teacher somewhere, but is this the normal high school gym class?
My gym teacher (I'm 12 by the way) Makes us do 50 sit-ups and 50 push-ups before and after we do a sport. Sports/games include: Capture the flag, relay races, soccer, floor hockey and basketball, (give or take a few that work their way in). We do these for 45 minutes. Stand out teachers do exist.
My gym teacher (I'm 12 by the way) Makes us do 50 sit-ups and 50 push-ups before and after we do a sport. Sports/games include: Capture the flag, relay races, soccer, floor hockey and basketball, (give or take a few that work their way in). We do these for 45 minutes. Stand out teachers do exist.
