Convince us that your ideas are worth considering - that can be with facts and evidence or with some good solid logic, depending on the topic at hand. There is a big difference between "Well in my opinion, X." and "Based on A, B and C, I believe X."
I don't think the solution is to turn every post into a research paper full of citations and footnotes, but at the very least you should be prepared to cite sources for major/controversial points
If someone makes a post that you don't see the logic behind you should reply and inquire - and yes, this means you shouldn't edit their post and slam a huge mod message saying "I don't agree with this, post citations"
Debate format does not work, anyone who was part of the debate subforum knows this. To reply to hanz0's points"WOW YOU ARE SO DUMB HOW CAN SOMEONE BE THIS DUMB". Something you are often guilty of hanz0... Just look at your sig, how is that acceptable?
The vast majority of my posts are trying to find out why someone holds that opinion, that's part of discussion too. Each post need not be a standalone thesis, this is not a journal. If someone makes a post that you don't see the logic behind you should reply and inquire - and yes, this means you shouldn't edit their post and slam a huge mod message saying "I don't agree with this, post citations".
4. The main problem with this sub is over-moderation (and it always has been). Threads are constantly closed on the whim of lmods, and occasionally an smod who happens to pass by and dislike the thread.
If either user feels like the other are running in circles, they could just stop responding - I often do this. Don't limit threads to the first handful of users who post.
Whoever made the sub rules clearly has not read the global rules for one thing - rules A,B,C,F,G can all be abolished for example.
May as well briefly talk about the moderator actions; A is pointless to list
B shouldn't happen
C isn't really a problem
B isn't something lmods can actually do anyway
F no shit.
Oh yeah, and mods shouldn't be editing posts to express their opinions on the topic, they should post. I don't really give a shit if you're an lmod or an admin, don't edit people's posts if it's not related to actual staff duties.
(look at this shit hanz0, if you want to discuss it open the thread and discuss it........................................ I really didn't have to go far to find an example)
Less moderation leads to more discussion in every single thread.
So, here's something I thought would be very beneficial to discussion:
Anonymous posting(to everyone but the moderators obviously). It would completely take care of bullshitters, but it would also allow people to post a bit more freely about what they actually think.
I feel like this isn't the place for this sort of suggestion. This thread (I think) is for discussion things we, as moderators, can change. This suggestion seems a little drastic for this thread and might do better if you made a thread for it in the SandI section as an improvement for more than one board.
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