Unfortunately this has turned from a thread about Trans-genders into a thread about depression.
Yes, the two are linked but this was not the purpose of the thread.
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Maybe I should make myself clearer, I merely intended to voice my opinion on the way the thread was going. I was not (Zelda) trying to 'back-seat moderate' or try to prove that there was no link between Depression and Dysphoria.
And now I shall add my 2 cents worth on the treatment of Mental Diseases;
No we don't really have much infrastructure to treat mental diseases, this is mostly due to the fact that these diseases are so complex and difficult to root out, and/or treat, especially since they are in the main functioning part of the body, which is responsible for almost everything. So if one part is influenced, the other parts are likely to be influenced as well.
Yes, the two are linked but this was not the purpose of the thread.
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Maybe I should make myself clearer, I merely intended to voice my opinion on the way the thread was going. I was not (Zelda) trying to 'back-seat moderate' or try to prove that there was no link between Depression and Dysphoria.
And now I shall add my 2 cents worth on the treatment of Mental Diseases;
No we don't really have much infrastructure to treat mental diseases, this is mostly due to the fact that these diseases are so complex and difficult to root out, and/or treat, especially since they are in the main functioning part of the body, which is responsible for almost everything. So if one part is influenced, the other parts are likely to be influenced as well.
Last edited by Kore; Jun 7, 2015 at 07:54 PM.
The difference between treatment for depression and the treatment for gender dysphoria was one of the topics of discussion outlined, therefore discussion of the treatment of depression should be around 30% of that discussion. The first few pages of this thread focussed more on the nature and treatment of gender dysphoria and now we have moved onto the nature and treatment for depression. Don't backseat moderate, especially when the thread was created by a moderator. In future assume that if the conversation had gone off track I would be fixing it. If myself or Ele are not fixing something it is either not broken, or we will fix it when we are less busy. I would delete your post but that would make others more likely to make the same mistake.
On a thread you create yourself then it would be slightly different since you would aware of the purpose of the threads creation, however you would still have no real power to control the discussion's topic beyond asking nicely or just changing the subject yourself.
On a thread you create yourself then it would be slightly different since you would aware of the purpose of the threads creation, however you would still have no real power to control the discussion's topic beyond asking nicely or just changing the subject yourself.
Good morning sweet princess
I'm surprised by how many people are missing the point of the comparison with depression.
The point behind it was that it is just as dangerous as the illnesses it was compared with, and somehow that turned into from that into "Hah I told you if you manipulate the numbers of these other illnesses they're JUST AS BAD as dysphoria" from "Dysphoria is just as dangerous as these and must be treated because it's dangerous" to "We don't treat depression well what is a train of thought where is the conductor AHHHHHH"
The only thing I was comparing was the bodycount, because it proves exactly how dangerous it is, I was not comparing the symptoms or anything. Just the bodycount. The symptoms don't matter at all in this observation, all that matters is the bodycount. If it kills as many people as other mental illnesses considered dangerous, it must be treated.
That said, we don't have a system in place to treat many mental illnesses in this country, but that's not to say that it can't be combated and people can't be helped.
The point behind it was that it is just as dangerous as the illnesses it was compared with, and somehow that turned into from that into "Hah I told you if you manipulate the numbers of these other illnesses they're JUST AS BAD as dysphoria" from "Dysphoria is just as dangerous as these and must be treated because it's dangerous" to "We don't treat depression well what is a train of thought where is the conductor AHHHHHH"
The only thing I was comparing was the bodycount, because it proves exactly how dangerous it is, I was not comparing the symptoms or anything. Just the bodycount. The symptoms don't matter at all in this observation, all that matters is the bodycount. If it kills as many people as other mental illnesses considered dangerous, it must be treated.
That said, we don't have a system in place to treat many mental illnesses in this country, but that's not to say that it can't be combated and people can't be helped.
Hoss.
Well I haven't really read more than 2 or three of these posts, and sorry if I'm interrupting the flow or something, but I got something I want you all to think about.
Sometimes, children that decide one day that they want to dress up as the other gender or say "I'm a boy/I'm a girl". If this is how they feel (at the time) does it really mean that that is how they want to be identified for the rest of their life?
I heard this one story about a little girl who decided that she might want to become a boy (I believe that she was about 6) Then her parents took the genius step to have her travel around the country to speak at Transgender conventions (or whatever they call them) about her story.
Imo, this is messed up, and very damaging to the child, what if it was just a phase? What if the child later in life might realize that she would have a harder life if she changed sex, and decided not to? Anyways, my point is that these parents took away that choice from the child, and destined them to a harder life than he/she needed.
Btw, not really saying that being trans is bad, just that nothing will ever be accepted by 100% of society, so you will get shit for being different anywhere you go.
Sometimes, children that decide one day that they want to dress up as the other gender or say "I'm a boy/I'm a girl". If this is how they feel (at the time) does it really mean that that is how they want to be identified for the rest of their life?
I heard this one story about a little girl who decided that she might want to become a boy (I believe that she was about 6) Then her parents took the genius step to have her travel around the country to speak at Transgender conventions (or whatever they call them) about her story.
Imo, this is messed up, and very damaging to the child, what if it was just a phase? What if the child later in life might realize that she would have a harder life if she changed sex, and decided not to? Anyways, my point is that these parents took away that choice from the child, and destined them to a harder life than he/she needed.
Btw, not really saying that being trans is bad, just that nothing will ever be accepted by 100% of society, so you will get shit for being different anywhere you go.
