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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #11
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First of all you have already lost this debate by showing your ineptitude regarding example choices by invoking Goodwins law lol. Second Nazi Germany was losing a war they thought they had a chance at winning and once they knew it was over they went quietly.

Nk will not be like that. Nk already knows it would lose immediately but they can cause countless damages before they do. No preemptive air strike is faster and stealthier than, " ay Bob what's that big thing flying at us for, fuck it push the button gonna mortar Seoul off the face of the earth" people don't need nukes to cause damage. You say they'd unify real quick but there is really no reason that South Korea would want north Korean people at all. They're 50 years behind in tech and most people no longer have blood relations in the opposite Koreas. There is an astounding amount of animosity between the two Koreas already.

Didn't take Japan longer to turn around cuz they thought we had more nukes, again fighting a losing battle after a long war they thought they could win.

More accurate wars you could compare this one to would be Vietnam Iraq and Afghanistan where the opposition knew it was fucked from the get go. Did those end well for America? Arguably not really no. They were long drawn out shit fests where millions died for nothing. You're proposing another one of those kinds of wars friend. But this time with more ruthless and well armed individuals. Vietnam was even a communist regime.... Did our meddling change their mind?

There's a reason there are almost no communist regimes left. It's because they're shit at leading they're people and fear is not as good of a tool at the moment as the other options. We as Americans took down the world super power soviet union with nothing but money. Nk is just another communist regime that will fall thanks to no money.

I admit north Korea could be defeated in less than a month if we are willing to bomb the fuck out of them and kill millions. Personally I think being alive and oppressed is better than not being alive. The way America would do it, if we fought a war with or without wmds would lead to millions more dead than whatever horrors are being committed in North Korea now.

As Americans it's not our job to police the world. North Korea will never be a threat to anyone other than themselves even with nukes. Monetarily suffocating the country is currently our best option. Worked pretty well everywhere else.
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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #12
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Originally Posted by sirkill1 View Post
First of all you have already lost this debate by showing your ineptitude regarding example choices by invoking Goodwins law lol.

Saying a debate was settled because of an internet meme is a better way to convince people that you're inept at arguing. Invoking Nazi Germany is perfectly fine if there's relevance to the debate topic. In fact, there's a derivation of Godwin's Law that states, inevitably, Godwin's Law will be invoked as a way to deflect actual appropriate discourse.

At least be versed in your meme if you're going to use it as part of your retort.
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Old 4 Weeks Ago   #13
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If they have nukes, there is very little anyone can do about it. The best course imo would be to calm them down. We cant nuke north korea because that would effect china, and they could nuke the rest of the world ez. Missile defense systems are unreliable aswell. The max distance a missile defense system could cover is about 3 miles.

I don't want to fight someone holding a gernade. Yeah, they aren't "suicidal", but lets not back North Korea into a corner please.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #14
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we have anti missile systems so just shoot one of there test nukes out of the air and be like "bitch what was that?" to them and then hack the dick outta kim so when he opens his laptop its gay porn and it says "-from america"

he'll get scared shitless and his balls will re enter his body and no nukes

yay
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #15
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THAAD, the anti missile system you're hoping will defend you, does not work against ICBMs. THAAD only works on short to intermediate range missiles, since they fly low enough in the atmosphere to be targeted. ICBMs fly out, and spend most of their time out, of the atmosphere, where THAAD isn't capable of intercepting. NK has demonstrated they are at the cusp, or already have, ICBM technology. And the only type of missile that NK could hit the U.S. with is an ICBM.

Also, the reason they're building nukes is because they're scared of their regime being ended. They won't stop if you demonstrate their own deterrent isn't effective, you'll just encourage them to develop further. If you intercept a missile, they'll just build a better missile to try to circumvent your system. These missile systems are not foolproof, and current iterations don't have a 100% interception rate even against intended targets. Literally, all NK would have to do would be to fire an ICBM along with several dud missiles to overwhelm THAAD. It's the same principle of deploying flares against guided missiles, where you present too many targets for it to effectively focus on one.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #16
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post
THAAD, the anti missile system you're hoping will defend you, does not work against ICBMs. THAAD only works on short to intermediate range missiles, since they fly low enough in the atmosphere to be targeted. ICBMs fly out, and spend most of their time out, of the atmosphere, where THAAD isn't capable of intercepting. NK has demonstrated they are at the cusp, or already have, ICBM technology. And the only type of missile that NK could hit the U.S. with is an ICBM.

Also, the reason they're building nukes is because they're scared of their regime being ended. They won't stop if you demonstrate their own deterrent isn't effective, you'll just encourage them to develop further. If you intercept a missile, they'll just build a better missile to try to circumvent your system. These missile systems are not foolproof, and current iterations don't have a 100% interception rate even against intended targets. Literally, all NK would have to do would be to fire an ICBM along with several dud missiles to overwhelm THAAD. It's the same principle of deploying flares against guided missiles, where you present too many targets for it to effectively focus on one.

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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #17
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Biological warfare is prohibited under the Biological Weapons Convention, which the U.S. has ratified, and is a great way to get virtually every nation in the U.N. to sanction us.

A generalized catch all response to military solutions: if you, as a citizen, thought of it, it's probably either illegal or not going to work.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #18
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wait then how did hillary get away with creating aids?
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #19
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Imagine that thouse million averege joes over there are so brainwashed into thinking that americans and everybody else is the Devil or enemy. It would be chaon on short term (few years) but it would be worth it. That is no way to live. Better in this capitalistic good for nothing world that we live in

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What if you are brain washed... And north Korea does not even exist and it's our government creating fear in people like you.
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