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Old Mar 10, 2018   #7611
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everyone should be able to shovel. maybe not use it. well often.there is a time and place for everything. but to defend it you need to understand it.
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Old Mar 10, 2018   #7612
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My shovel is pretty bad, I just find the formula somehow.
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Old Mar 12, 2018   #7613
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Monkey that was beautifully worded. Thank you.
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Old Mar 12, 2018   #7614
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Let's not forget lifts
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Old Mar 12, 2018   #7615
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Do you mean lifting as in full-on walking somebody out? Or lifting to give yourself an advantage to do and chain techniques?
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Old Mar 13, 2018   #7616
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i vote you should only walk someone out of the ring one handed. that makes it more fun for both. plus it helps with balance
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Old Mar 13, 2018   #7617
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Pills only saying that cause the only counter for a shovel is a shovel
Dude wants it to himself

its adam and eve not banter with steve smh
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Old Mar 14, 2018   #7618
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Does anybody here duel?
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Old Mar 14, 2018   #7619
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I do. And i make a point not to shovel but I don't get all sourpuss if the other guy does. If I lose then there's something I did wrong. Unless your fighting Diamond there's usually some opening, however small it may be, where you can neutralize or save a shovel attack. But don't get me wrong it's fkninggg difficult. Shovels are unfair not because they're unbeatable, it's because the skill needed to counter a shovel is 10x greater than the skill needed to execute a shovel.
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Old Mar 16, 2018   #7620
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I'm not, I always get nervous easily.
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