Originally Posted by Banned
They were like the equivalent to a main team. Toribash just lacks something can't put my finger on it. And there is luck that happens on all mods.
Maybe it's just because toribash matches usually only last a minute. If you wanted to host a tournament, either you'd host a super short one or you'd host one that would take longer but bore a lot of people. I guess watching others play ToriBash isn't as exciting as seeing a MOBA or a fighting game like Street Fighter. Street fighter battles also don't last that long, but you have a load of characters you can pick from, each with their own style. That adds a bit of variety to it.
Also, guys, let's contract the discussion to ToriBash only.
Comparisons or analogies are perfectly fine, but there's no need to discuss SF4AE in here.
Last edited by Arglax; Aug 16, 2013 at 07:10 AM.
f=m*a syens
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An interesting aspect is that even beginners can follow what is going on, if they were to watch a pro tournament (esport tourney or something). There's not a lot of strategy behind the scenes, as opposed to other games like starcraft, dota, and lol, where you have to worry about cooldowns and other spawn timers which are all behind the scenes in the players mind.
Unfortunately, I don't see the community getting to that point. The multiplayer is more casual (there is no ranked queues, or shown elo, so there is no punishment for losing, thus decreasing the competitive feel.)
It would be interesting if hampa took a different approach towards the multiplayer. Maybe as in, you can have lobbies, or custom games, for you and your friends but at the same time you could queue up and be matched against a random player around your elo. Win = Gain elo. Lose = Lose elo. Better players would play against the better players and I think it would add a whole new competitive aspect to the game.
Unfortunately, I don't see the community getting to that point. The multiplayer is more casual (there is no ranked queues, or shown elo, so there is no punishment for losing, thus decreasing the competitive feel.)
It would be interesting if hampa took a different approach towards the multiplayer. Maybe as in, you can have lobbies, or custom games, for you and your friends but at the same time you could queue up and be matched against a random player around your elo. Win = Gain elo. Lose = Lose elo. Better players would play against the better players and I think it would add a whole new competitive aspect to the game.
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Originally Posted by sham
It would be interesting if hampa took a different approach towards the multiplayer. Maybe as in, you can have lobbies, or custom games, for you and your friends but at the same time you could queue up and be matched against a random player around your elo. Win = Gain elo. Lose = Lose elo. Better players would play against the better players and I think it would add a whole new competitive aspect to the game.
Good idea. I think you'd start seeing more high belt players in no time. There's not much to gain by playing now. A ranking in Elo or some other statistic other than WR would revitalise the game and as such create more room for competition on a larger scale (i.e. esports).
*edit: Apparently ToriBash already has elo.
http://forum.toribash.com/tori_ranking.php
Click "global" to see global elo rating.
My next suggestion would then be to increase awareness, because in my 4 years TB career I never heard anything about the TB Elo.
If more people start to become aware that there is indeed a ranking, I think there would be a more competitive atmosphere.
Maybe give higher players an in-game ribbon or something, like the League of Legends load screen borders so there'd be a point in playing a lot and becoming more skilful.
As I understand it, the whole "cult" with the good players and clans is a whole aspect of esports too. People have their favourite teams as they do for physical sports like soccer.
If TB would become more competitive, something like that might happen to TB too.
Last edited by Arglax; Aug 16, 2013 at 07:58 AM.
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My next suggestion would then be to increase awareness, because in my 4 years TB career I never heard anything about the TB Elo.
It's displayed after each fight in Multiplayer. More awareness? Huh.
The thing is, Toribash players are usually different from those who play Dota/SC/anything else that's considered to be mainstream. It attracts those who don't play all day long (usually) and just come here to relax and not even play but talk. Nobody will ever really care about any ratings/ELO until this changes.
In general: Toribash could make a decent e-sport if it was an EA game, for example. Not an indie product with small audience.
