I don't have anything against this organization or whatever you guys are doing, but I'd still like to say a few things.
Aikidobigdojo is my favourite mod and it was my favourite for more than 3 years now I believe. There are only four gay things that I'd call "rushing for win" those are: Judo kicks, Lifting, Shoveling and Suplex openers.
To play un-fair? Everything is fair, no matter how gay you play.
Learn how to counter all the shit idiots do and that's about it.
Suplexes, meh... As far as it was a planned move from the start...I wouldn't call that nice at all, suplexes are hard to counter and if you don't know how to do it most likely ends up by a lift. And throws? How is that even possible? 95% of abders uses grab in their opener, how would you make a throw? So I assume Throw=Lift?
And finally,
Contracted wrists are just another tactic, I personally never use contracted wrists at the start, but still...How are contracted wrists are bad in any way? Well of course, it causes random dms sometimes, but nothing more.
Totally agree about the lifts and lift/kicks, but yet again....Leg/Torso grabbing?
You want to say that if you have one free arm(I mean which is not grabbed by your opponent) the only thing you should grab to make the game fair is arms and head? That makes no sense AT ALL. Grabbing torso is one of the best ways to create pressure and is a really effective thing to trick your opponent. Leg grab might be a little bit annoying at times, but you just can't avoid that if you get low...Your opponent will most likely go for a torso grab or even a decap and the only way to counter that is a leg grab. Grabbing leg is very effective and IMO it's necessary sometimes.
Well I'm done here. Even after all the stuff I've mentioned I can still see the purpose of this organization. A pretty good idea.
Good luck guys.
Aikidobigdojo is my favourite mod and it was my favourite for more than 3 years now I believe. There are only four gay things that I'd call "rushing for win" those are: Judo kicks, Lifting, Shoveling and Suplex openers.
To promote fairplay and playing classic aikido.
To play un-fair? Everything is fair, no matter how gay you play.
Learn how to counter all the shit idiots do and that's about it.
So, if most your everyday matches include such things as:
Throws,Suplexes
Suplexes, meh... As far as it was a planned move from the start...I wouldn't call that nice at all, suplexes are hard to counter and if you don't know how to do it most likely ends up by a lift. And throws? How is that even possible? 95% of abders uses grab in their opener, how would you make a throw? So I assume Throw=Lift?
And finally,
without contracting wrists on 1st turn, lifts, lift kicks, leg/torso grabbing.
Contracted wrists are just another tactic, I personally never use contracted wrists at the start, but still...How are contracted wrists are bad in any way? Well of course, it causes random dms sometimes, but nothing more.
Totally agree about the lifts and lift/kicks, but yet again....Leg/Torso grabbing?
You want to say that if you have one free arm(I mean which is not grabbed by your opponent) the only thing you should grab to make the game fair is arms and head? That makes no sense AT ALL. Grabbing torso is one of the best ways to create pressure and is a really effective thing to trick your opponent. Leg grab might be a little bit annoying at times, but you just can't avoid that if you get low...Your opponent will most likely go for a torso grab or even a decap and the only way to counter that is a leg grab. Grabbing leg is very effective and IMO it's necessary sometimes.
Well I'm done here. Even after all the stuff I've mentioned I can still see the purpose of this organization. A pretty good idea.
Good luck guys.
Also known as Kristis133.
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Originally Posted by Riddles
There are only four gay things that I'd call "rushing for win" those are: Judo kicks, Lifting, Shoveling and Suplex openers.
If you mean forced suplex, then i will had to agree.
Originally Posted by Riddles
Suplexes, meh... As far as it was a planned move from the start...I wouldn't call that nice at all, suplexes are hard to counter and if you don't know how to do it most likely ends up by a lift.
If you are plaing against more or less experienced player he will try to avoid lifting.
Originally Posted by Riddles
And throws? How is that even possible? 95% of abders uses grab in their opener, how would you make a throw? So I assume Throw=Lift?
No, you assume wrong.
common throw.rpl
Originally Posted by Riddles
Contracted wrists are just another tactic, I personally never use contracted wrists at the start, but still...How are contracted wrists are bad in any way? Well of course, it causes random dms sometimes, but nothing more.
You are totally wrong. Contracted wrists give a huge advantage, thats why i belive it can't be considered as fairplay at all. I will explain:
Let's say your opponent used wrists while you started with clap, in this case his arms are grabbing inside yours and closer to you, so your wrists in this case are useless. Absolutely. And he controll your elbows. If both of you ended up back to ground and about to try saving by standing on wrists he will win. This is bad isn't it? While if both started with clap noone would have advantage/disadvantage on start.
Originally Posted by Riddles
Totally agree about the lifts and lift/kicks, but yet again....Leg/Torso grabbing?
You want to say that if you have one free arm(I mean which is not grabbed by your opponent) the only thing you should grab to make the game fair is arms and head?
No. you can go for turnover.
turnover.rpl
Originally Posted by Riddles
Grabbing torso is one of the best ways to create pressure and is a really effective thing to trick your opponent.
Never seen it to trick an opponent. Most things with low grabs i see are ending up as pushing and lifting, while both players are stick together in one piece. Just a mess. Not exciting to watch.
Originally Posted by Riddles
Leg grab might be a little bit annoying at times, but you just can't avoid that if you get low...
I didn't get what do you mean here. can you explain further?
Originally Posted by Riddles
Your opponent will most likely go for a torso grab or even a decap and the only way to counter that is a leg grab. Grabbing leg is very effective and IMO it's necessary sometimes.
Leg grab isn't necessary at all.
Here is throw with one free hand and without leg grab.
throw without leg grab 1 free arm.rpl
Originally Posted by Riddles
Good luck guys.
Thank you.
Last edited by snake; Feb 4, 2012 at 06:29 PM.
No, you assume wrong.
How is that different from a turnover?
You are totally wrong. Contracted wrists give a huge advantage, thats why i belive it can't be considered as fairplay at all. I will explain:
Let's say your opponent used wrists while you started with clap, in this case his arms are grabbing inside yours and closer to you, so your wrists in this case are useless. Absolutely. And he controll your elbows. If both of you ended up back to ground and about to try saving by standing on wrists he will win. This is bad isn't it? While if both started with clap noone would have advantage/disadvantage on start.
If you know how to play, you can easily turn contracted wrist to a disadvantage.
I don't really know how to explain, but...By ungrabbing and grabbing again after a few frames you can create such a strong pressure that your opponent won't be even able to move. I still can't see how they are wrong...Well maybe it's just a question of what do you think is wrong and right.
No. you can go for turnover.
In a situation like that yes.(Oh and William lowered his arm, that kinda helped you to make a turnover and your leg didn't dq.) But why William didn't go for grab? He just lowered his arm making him an easy target for a turnover or a lift.
And turnover is not always a good choice. You can't just go for it every single time, it simply will not work.
I didn't get what do you mean here. can you explain further?
Getting low=Staying near the ground. That makes it very hard for your opponent to lift you and well...It's just a good position.
Leg grab isn't necessary at all.
Here is throw with one free hand and without leg grab.
Your arm was between his legs which helped you to do that throw, what if it wouldn't be there? It would've been a simple lift, nothing more.
Originally Posted by 8OJ4N
Its a question of what is fair play...
^That.
Well I will stop spamming this thread now, if you want to discuss it Snake, let's keep it to pm's.
Last edited by Riddles; Feb 2, 2012 at 07:05 PM.
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