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ROBOTS good or bad for humans?
well im so scared of this: the technology now are robots whow can do jobs...

but if the robots do the work, what gonna do the humans?
well
its coming the something another era : The era of automation

im so worried of what is comming , ok? its this a serious talking : yes, but i think you need to see all with my eyes to know whats coming

robots working humans people losing jobs what gonna do the humans we need to think it.

i have some examples: robots who can play ping-pong whats the dangerous on this, if some robots can hold objects why not robots can hold guns and oher dangerous things and use them
or robots controlling the security...

what differentiates humans from robots? the humans can feel they can love and do much things but the robots has only a program and they do all they have programed

Yes and maybe im scratching my head
but its the think im thinking i y need to say it

soo Take time think everything about this and answer in this discussion

i like the robots but with exceptions the technology its going to far

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Agriculture is a great example of how technology destroying human jobs actually makes society wealthier in real terms, not just capitalist/economic means of exchange. Replacing people with technology that makes the process far more efficient frees those people up to apply themselves in different ways. Without all those different innovations, our entire tech sectors would still be tilling fields.

US manufacturing is another example of society needing to move on. About 89% of those jobs lost in the couple decades (maybe 15 years?) was lost to technology (it wasn't only trade deals; trade deals weren't even the primary factor (the other 11%)). Sure, it might be difficult and stressful to change careers, but people need to be flexible for society to actually improve. I'm of the opinion that supporting and aiding people during this transition is a responsibility of the government, although of course there are those who disagree....
the transition stage (the stage we're in at the moment) between full automation and almost no automation is going to be the hardest by far.
At full automation, there will only be a few jobs around for programmers and engineers (maybe not, since bots might do those jobs too), and most of the population will be at home getting served by robots.

The loss of jobs is a problem in our society, because its simply cheaper and more effective to have a bot doing that job that a human used to. I do believe that bots, in the end, will be beneficial to the human race

ok i like the robots i think its good for all but with exceptions if robots replace humans to work they will not earn money and th
1.A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2.A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3.A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

ok with this laws on the robots the humans are not need to be afraid but the economy work or some more things gonna change and its changing too fast.

Thats why im afraid and not to robots and technology
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As Pouffy and Kore alluded to, the overwhelming majority of our jobs will become automated. Those jobs are gone and while a few specialised jobs may open up to replace them, there certainly will be far more unemployed people and far more people forced to accept lesser-paying jobs that may not fully support them.

This isn't necessarily a problem, it's just a change in how we're going to operate from now on. It would be negligent and ridiculous for our governments to allow all of the profit from the automation revolution to fill the coffers of corporations solely. Automation will become taxed and this money will then be distributed through our society in the form of basic income. Basic income means that we all receive a regular payment from the government that we would be able to live on. It's a social safety net to ensure that nobody is battling poverty while the super-rich fat cats from the automation companies dine in their decadence.
Last edited by Ele; Dec 12, 2016 at 03:55 AM.
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
As Pouffy and Kore alluded to, the overwhelming majority of our jobs will become automated. Those jobs are gone and while a few specialised jobs may open up to replace them, there certainly will be far more unemployed people and far more people forced to accept lesser-paying jobs that may not fully support them.

This isn't necessarily a problem, it's just a change in how we're going to operate from now on. It would be negligent and ridiculous for our governments to allow all of the profit from the automation revolution to fill the coffers of corporations solely. Automation will become taxed and this money will then be distributed through our society in the form of basic income. Basic income means that we all receive a regular payment from the government that we would be able to live on. It's a social safety net to ensure that nobody is battling poverty while the super-rich fat cats from the automation companies dine in their decadence.

There's a statistic I got from a university I applied to a while ago (University of Technology Australia) that said 50% of jobs in 2030 don't exist yet. I don't know how well this fares but it's good news to me.

I feel for every automated machine there is still a job created, because someone still needs to repair and maintain that machine. Eg. Teleportation eliminates taxi business, creates teleportation mechanics/repairmen. This is just an example (I shouldn't have to say that) but I think it shows that all we need are more transferable skills to train the workforce (obviously more tech oriented. government funded training to reduce job loss?)
Originally Posted by kendrikLMR View Post
There's a statistic I got from a university I applied to a while ago (University of Technology Australia) that said 50% of jobs in 2030 don't exist yet. I don't know how well this fares but it's good news to me.

I feel for every automated machine there is still a job created, because someone still needs to repair and maintain that machine. Eg. Teleportation eliminates taxi business, creates teleportation mechanics/repairmen. This is just an example (I shouldn't have to say that) but I think it shows that all we need are more transferable skills to train the workforce (obviously more tech oriented. government funded training to reduce job loss?)

Right but you won't have nearly as many technicians as we have taxi drivers today. Just take a look at any current business. In a large business building you've got 500 employees all using computers, yet there are only maybe ten people working in the IT department. If each computer required constant maintenance, then many more IT personnel would be required, but that is not the case. In our future scenario, unless each teleportation pad required an attendant, it would soften the blow to the jobs destroyed in the taxi business, but if not, only a relative handful of mechanics would be needed to be trained to fix any issues.
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Originally Posted by kendrikLMR View Post
I feel for every automated machine there is still a job created, because someone still needs to repair and maintain that machine. Eg. Teleportation eliminates taxi business, creates teleportation mechanics/repairmen. This is just an example (I shouldn't have to say that) but I think it shows that all we need are more transferable skills to train the workforce (obviously more tech oriented. government funded training to reduce job loss?)

I don't think jobs will be replaced at a 1:1 rate. For every machine, you don't need one person to maintain it. Consider truck driving, for example. There wouldn't be one person in charge of maintaining each self-driven truck, there'd be one guy in charge of maintaining a full fleet. If there were one person in charge of each truck, they would have very little to do all day, so I don't imagine this would be the case.

Yeah, there'll be new jobs that we've know are coming and there'll be new jobs that nobody predicted. I just don't think that there'll be enough of these for everyone. Automation is all about saving labour - The point of it is to make us humans as redundant as possible.

Anywho, that's why I don't think jobs will be replaced at a 1:1 rate. But who knows, really? It hasn't happened yet so all we're doing is speculating as best we can.
Last edited by Ele; Dec 13, 2016 at 04:02 AM.
really money is and always has been the only effective way of running an economy based around human workers. with a robot work force there wont really be as much need for money, but the real question would be for things like precious metals i feel, would the lose their value or would people just start fighting over them if we did away with economy in general due to robots
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