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Originally Posted by Datsick
All I have to say is if you think you have it bad and think you want to die and can't handle it THAT BAD, then just do it, because there are people all around the world who probably have 1000 more reasons than you to want to end it all and are positive people that try and make the best of things. There is no guarantee what happens after this life, and it can be hard sometimes, but being positive and getting through it all is always going to be the best option. There's not enough room on this earth for negative people like that, and I am tired of hearing about it, suicide shouldn't even be an issue.
You hear this a lot actually. You don't have it bad, there are people without food, you have a roof over your head, etc etc. Suicide is not usually superficial thing. You can be rich and be suicidal, you can also be poor and be suicidal. You can have parents and be suicidal and you can be abandoned and be suicidal. It more has to do with how much you yourself can handle as a person. When your greatest concern is getting your head together and not tearing yourself apart the world around you and it's luxuries lose almost all of their value.
Last edited by Aracoon; Oct 16, 2015 at 02:41 PM.
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Everything Aracoon has said so far is pretty damn on point and it's pretty hard to add to what he's saying. I do completely agree that suicide isn't entirely based on materials, although sometimes it is. I think suicide is caused more when terrible events happen in somebody's life or when they are depressed for a long time and believe they will never be able to get over it. My take on it is that it's temporary and if you ever think you want to end it all, wait. Just hold off for a while, because a decision to end it all just because you're in the heat of the moment is a very permanent decision and one that you can't go back on. Although if you just wait then you still have all your options, you can decide some other time when your head is clear. I think getting out of that suicidal/depressed state takes a tremendous amount of mental reconstruction and can be done with the help of therapy or some other 3rd party.
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I don't at any point want to get too personal because this is an internet forum about a video game. But I have a few mental health issues to say the least so suicide is always on my mind. The difficulty with a lot of it is the lack of representation and the lack of understanding.
If I break my leg and you don't - you can empathise pretty easily and tell that I am in pain and need help because I have a broken leg. It's a visible and physical ailment... Mental illnesses unless extreme tend to be very invisible unless you know how to look for what's wrong. It's very easy to say that people have it worse than you so you have no reason to be sad but if you were to flip that argument on it's head then you'll know why it holds no water. "Why are you happy? There are people happier than you so you have no real reason to be happy."
There are many different types of depression, it can be situational or it can be chronic, sometimes you can have everything you could wish for and more and still feel hollow. Do you think famous and adored celebrities would be depressed if it was as simple as just being happy? Take Robin Williams - household name, adored by everyone and able to make generations of people laugh. Still took his own life due to depression.
People have their own victories in life, for some it can be running a marathon and for others it can be as simple as getting out of bed in the morning.
When you say "You don't deserve to be sad because people have it worse than you" you may think you're helping and grounding the person but by god you are making it so much worse. You've taken a person at rockbottom and told them they don't deserve how they feel and their feelings don't mean anything. It's not nice feeling worthless.
If you're suicidal please get the help that you deserve, see your doctor.
http://www.suicide.org/index.html
http://www.suicide.org/international...-hotlines.html
http://www.suicide.org/how-to-help-a...al-person.html
You may think you're alone, but you're not. I can guarantee there are people who know what you're feeling and want to help you. If you need someone to talk to feel free to private message me.
If I break my leg and you don't - you can empathise pretty easily and tell that I am in pain and need help because I have a broken leg. It's a visible and physical ailment... Mental illnesses unless extreme tend to be very invisible unless you know how to look for what's wrong. It's very easy to say that people have it worse than you so you have no reason to be sad but if you were to flip that argument on it's head then you'll know why it holds no water. "Why are you happy? There are people happier than you so you have no real reason to be happy."
There are many different types of depression, it can be situational or it can be chronic, sometimes you can have everything you could wish for and more and still feel hollow. Do you think famous and adored celebrities would be depressed if it was as simple as just being happy? Take Robin Williams - household name, adored by everyone and able to make generations of people laugh. Still took his own life due to depression.
People have their own victories in life, for some it can be running a marathon and for others it can be as simple as getting out of bed in the morning.
When you say "You don't deserve to be sad because people have it worse than you" you may think you're helping and grounding the person but by god you are making it so much worse. You've taken a person at rockbottom and told them they don't deserve how they feel and their feelings don't mean anything. It's not nice feeling worthless.
If you're suicidal please get the help that you deserve, see your doctor.
http://www.suicide.org/index.html
http://www.suicide.org/international...-hotlines.html
http://www.suicide.org/how-to-help-a...al-person.html
You may think you're alone, but you're not. I can guarantee there are people who know what you're feeling and want to help you. If you need someone to talk to feel free to private message me.
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Originally Posted by Datsick
All I have to say is if you think you have it bad and think you want to die and can't handle it THAT BAD, then just do it, because there are people all around the world who probably have 1000 more reasons than you to want to end it all and are positive people that try and make the best of things. There is no guarantee what happens after this life, and it can be hard sometimes, but being positive and getting through it all is always going to be the best option. There's not enough room on this earth for negative people like that, and I am tired of hearing about it, suicide shouldn't even be an issue.
This is truly a horrible thing to say. Saying you shouldn't feel sad because someone has it worse, is like saying you shouldn't be happy because someone has it better.
Even when you are raised in a setting where you are used to having access to these luxuries, you can still feel more depressed than starving people in Africa.
I do not believe that the conscious awareness can die or experience death.
The body which the conscious awareness expresses itself may die. that is obvious, but as for the conscious awareness? I'm not convinced "death" even exists.
Whatever someone wants to do with their body is none of my business, but if they really want to die, i'd rather they fight me in a death match than put a gun to their own head.
The body which the conscious awareness expresses itself may die. that is obvious, but as for the conscious awareness? I'm not convinced "death" even exists.
Whatever someone wants to do with their body is none of my business, but if they really want to die, i'd rather they fight me in a death match than put a gun to their own head.
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