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I do like most of the Smods the one's helping out others etc.. ,but a few try to act to mature & feel they have a valid point in all the case & poke their nose in places where they are never wanted/invited.

Being an Smod gives powers but dosen't mean they should be above the rules & such.
KONY 2012
This time, let's ask the common user...

Let's talk with Warcry!
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[11:45]	<Dom|Butt>	ok Warcry
[11:45]	<Dom|Butt>	You can answer a few questions right?
[11:45]	<Warcry>	yeah
[11:46]	<Warcry>	it's all good
[11:46]	<Dom|Butt>	mmk, first. Would you consider yourself as an average forum member?
[11:46]	<Warcry>	yes
[11:46]	<Dom|Butt>	now you say, Age is to power right?
[11:47]	<Warcry>	preferably
[11:47]	<Dom|Butt>	explain please :3
[11:47]	<Warcry>	i think a lot of younger people tend to abuse their power more, because they aren't as mature
[11:48]	<Warcry>	if you look at a lot of other game forums, their mods tend to be older
[11:48]	<Dom|Butt>	Can you give some examples
[11:48]	<Warcry>	hmm
[11:48]	<Warcry>	ok
[11:48]	<Warcry>	not mentioning by names?
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[11:49]	<Dom|Butt>	If you want to give names you can
[11:49]	<Warcry>	k
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[11:49]	<Warcry>	i noticed it a lot more a few months back, because i was playing more back then
[11:49]	<Warcry>	particularly infractions
[11:50]	<Dom|Butt>	Infractions like...
[11:50]	<Warcry>	you'd have people making simple comments to help other people, or simply state something, with a 4 point infraction attached
[11:50]	<Warcry>	the biggest one was 'backseat modding'
[11:51]	<Warcry>	in particular, this is the one that gets WAY over-infracted
[11:51]	<Dom|Butt>	Well take this for example
[11:51]	<Dom|Butt>	Smods dont get paid.
[11:51]	<Dom|Butt>	they want to be in this.
[11:51]	<Warcry>	i am aware
[11:51]	<Dom|Butt>	And Personally, I would be rather annoyed if you told me how to do my job
[11:52]	<Dom|Butt>	I understand what you mean though.
[11:52]	<Warcry>	yes, but it doesn't hurt to push a newbie in the right direction
[11:52]	<Warcry>	that doesn't deserve an infraction
[11:53]	<Dom|Butt>	So your saying
[11:53]	<Dom|Butt>	because they're new, they deserve an extra chance
[11:53]	<Warcry>	take this as an example
[11:54]	<Warcry>	someone new posts this in Discussion: hey guys, who else like Metallica? And you say to them, that's meant to go in Music. And you recieve an infraction for backseat modding
[11:55]	<Warcry>	that's ridiculous
[11:55]	<Warcry>	you're not telling the mod how to do his/her job, you're just being helpful
[11:55]	<Warcry>	you are assisting them
[11:55]	<Dom|Butt>	hmmm ok however
[11:56]	<Dom|Butt>	at least, an infraction isn't a ban.
[11:56]	<Warcry>	yes, but enough of them get you banned
[11:56]	<Warcry>	that's how they work
[11:56]	<Dom|Butt>	That's why you dont fuck around.
[11:56]	<Dom|Butt>	and besides
[11:56]	<Dom|Butt>	That's why we have the report button
[11:57]	<Dom|Butt>	Sure, It may take some time
[11:57]	<Dom|Butt>	but it works.
[11:57]	<Warcry>	which usually results in an infraction as well
[11:57]	<Dom|Butt>	It's not backseat modding if you report it.
[11:58]	<Dom|Butt>	THAT'S assistance.
[11:58]	<Warcry>	a newbie getting banned in his first week for not knowing how to use the forum isn't good, in my opinion
[11:58]	<Warcry>	reporting someone just shifts the infraction from you to them in most cases
[11:59]	<Dom|Butt>	and wasn't that your arguement about backseat modding?
[11:59]	<Warcry>	i mean, we should be allowed to help new people without being penalised, or them being penalized
[11:59]	<Warcry>	which isn't happening a lot
[12:00]	<Dom|Butt>	Well, the last time I checked, true newbies get warned.
[12:00]	<Warcry>	that's one example
[12:01]	<Dom|Butt>	If you do it again, your infractions stack.
[12:01]	<Dom|Butt>	-> ban.
[12:01]	<Warcry>	mmm
[12:01]	<Dom|Butt>	We also have sticky to help newbies too
[12:01]	<Warcry>	true
[12:02]	<Dom|Butt>	So, would you still say that the team is underaged?
[12:02]	<Warcry>	yes
[12:02]	<Dom|Butt>	mmk..
[12:02]	<Dom|Butt>	also what about this..There are quite a few others who rarely actually mod with their power and instead use it to do whatever the hell they want
[12:03]	<Dom|Butt>	Care to name a few?
[12:03]	<Dom|Butt>	you can refuse if you want :l
[12:03]	<Warcry>	k
[12:03]	<Warcry>	some of these guys are probably no longer mods, so just tell me
[12:04]	<Warcry>	stonewall was a big offender
[12:04]	<Dom|Butt>	stonewall eh?
[12:04]	<Dom|Butt>	Last I checked.
[12:05]	<Dom|Butt>	he was a great mod, especially in art.
[12:05]	<Warcry>	there were some people i saw with a coloured name (not pT) who I never saw actually do any modding
[12:05]	<Dom|Butt>	And you know there are pages and pages of reports
[12:05]	<Dom|Butt>	which the common user can't read
[12:05]	<Warcry>	mm
[12:06]	<Dom|Butt>	You may not see the "User was infraction for this post ~Bump"
[12:06]	<Dom|Butt>	but smods do so much more.
[12:06]	<Warcry>	i see
[12:07]	<Dom|Butt>	It's great your open to this.
[12:07]	<Dom|Butt>	Anything to add war?
[12:07]	<Warcry>	you guys have probably really cleaned up your practices in the last month or so
[12:07]	<Dom|Butt>	Are you saying you respect the smods more now? :D
[12:08]	<Warcry>	the proper Smods I have no problem with, except a minor gripe with Hamster
[12:08]	<Warcry>	i think they're great right now
[12:08]	<Dom|Butt>	Well he's an a-team member, That's a different subject
[12:08]	<Dom|Butt>	Thanks for your time warcry o7
[12:09]	<Warcry>	i did just realize that much of the bad activity went on a few months ago or so, and I haven't seen much power abuse lately
[12:09]	<Warcry>	thanks Dom
[10:17][10:50] <diskimage> Where can I find the Toribash license?
I think having underaged staff is wrong, Because most of them thinking tha a job is game. No offence, unlike reddevil is 27 he knows what he is doing. but how about someone who is 14.
Would you trust him?
I don't think age is a matter when it comes to these things, it's a matter of how well you do the job and how you go about doing it.
collect snots from the nose
My brother, Phail, is 14 and he's a market mod. I know he does an extremely good job and I often hear him exploding with rage from upstairs at people not using correct tags and spelling and so forth. He gets frustrated at his job, but he does it anyway. I respect him for that. He's also a lot more mature than most people his age that I know. He doesn't abuse power ever, and that's a rarity.
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box deserves recognition for that too. He was 11 and no one could have possibly guessed that until he said it.

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ouch. Don't drag me into this. >.>

Also; I was kidding around about that.
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It doesn't matter if you're 2 or 202.

All we care about is whether or not you handle the job well.

If you cannot, well, either you will find out or we will find out. And either way, you won't have to deal with that problem any more.

Edit:

Doesn't mean we won't look at you funny if you're 8 though.
Squad Squad Squad lead?
The standardization of Toribash Squad roles may have gone too far!
(You were waiting for this)

Let's talk with CiaoTime!

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[12:13]	<Dom|Butt>	Ok Ciao
[12:13]	<CiaoTime>	'ello
[12:13]	<Dom|Butt>	You WERE an smod right?
[12:13]	<CiaoTime>	Yes.
[12:13]	<Dom|Butt>	And you are no longer one right?
[12:14]	<CiaoTime>	As of this interview, nah
[12:14]	<CiaoTime>	Not sure if I have a chance at redemption
[12:14]	<Dom|Butt>	mmk, Do you know why you lost your power?
[12:14]	<CiaoTime>	I'd like to keep that private :D
[12:15]	<Dom|Butt>	far enough \o
[12:15]	<Dom|Butt>	In the time you were a smod
[12:15]	<Dom|Butt>	How would you describe the position?
[12:16]	<CiaoTime>	It's basically volunteer work
[12:16]	<CiaoTime>	Helping the community out
[12:16]	<Dom|Butt>	and did you enjoy it?
[12:17]	<CiaoTime>	I did for what it was worth
[12:17]	<CiaoTime>	There was a lot of work involved
[12:17]	<Dom|Butt>	Like what?
[12:17]	<CiaoTime>	I was the newest Smod for quite a while
[12:17]	<CiaoTime>	The old clan tag violation rule was a big one
[12:17]	<CiaoTime>	Smods' prime directive is to keep the forum clean, though
[12:18]	<Dom|Butt>	Alot of people violate the clan tag rule am i right?
[12:18]	<CiaoTime>	oh yeah
[12:18]	<Dom|Butt>	And during your time, did you receive alot of PM's
[12:18]	<CiaoTime>	Most average forum guys would never care about that
[12:18]	<CiaoTime>	Actually... I didn't
[12:19]	<CiaoTime>	I've had the occasional "Why'd you infract me"
[12:19]	<CiaoTime>	Or "could you help with this"
[12:19]	<Dom|Butt>	standard stuff.
[12:19]	<CiaoTime>	pretty much
[12:19]	<CiaoTime>	Most people go to the higher admins for PMs
[12:19]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you know how you first obtained your position?
[12:19]	<CiaoTime>	there was a story behind that
[12:20]	<Dom|Butt>	Care to share?
[12:20]	<CiaoTime>	Long story short, a quick talk with veb and a few jokes about Kitfox going through puberty
[12:20]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you feel like you deserved your position?
[12:20]	<CiaoTime>	I felt confident I could do the job
[12:21]	<Dom|Butt>	Did you in the long run?
[12:21]	<CiaoTime>	Not my judgment to decide whether I deserved it or not
[12:21]	<CiaoTime>	well...
[12:21]	<CiaoTime>	yes
[12:21]	<CiaoTime>	I've been doing this for quite a while
[12:22]	<Dom|Butt>	you feel like you did your job well?
[12:22]	<CiaoTime>	back to the newest Smod thing
[12:22]	<CiaoTime>	I took quite a bit of flak from some of my cohorts
[12:22]	<Dom|Butt>	What do you mean?
[12:23]	<CiaoTime>	I banned who I felt needed to be banned, infracted who I felt needed to be infracted
[12:23]	<CiaoTime>	Here's an example
[12:23]	<CiaoTime>	There was one guy with a clan tag just over the character limit
[12:23]	<CiaoTime>	He started swearing at me, so he got a 3 day ban or whatever the standard was at the time
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	He then made a new account to continue swearing at me
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	So I banned that account for ban evasion
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	There's the problem
[12:24]	<Dom|Butt>	Good job.
[12:24]	<Dom|Butt>	But
[12:24]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you think you could have kept that up
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	Ban evasion isn't defined as a permabannable reason
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	So I got in deep shit
[12:24]	<CiaoTime>	Until they realized the story
[12:25]	<CiaoTime>	to be honest, I don't know if I could have kept it up
[12:25]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you feel happier? being a common user again?
[12:25]	<CiaoTime>	well, it means less work for one
[12:25]	<CiaoTime>	yay
[12:26]	<Dom|Butt>	Always good.
[12:26]	<CiaoTime>	Smod had its perks
[12:26]	<CiaoTime>	Got to talk with genuinely good people
[12:26]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you think the perks were worth it?
[12:26]	<CiaoTime>	Of course not
[12:26]	<CiaoTime>	It's a volunteer position, mostly
[12:27]	<CiaoTime>	By far Toribash was the largest community I've moderated
[12:27]	<Dom|Butt>	Did you enjoy your position overall?
[12:27]	<CiaoTime>	I did
[12:27]	<Dom|Butt>	because you liked helping?
[12:28]	<CiaoTime>	yeah
[12:28]	<Dom|Butt>	Good ciao o7. Do you want to add anything?
[12:29]	<CiaoTime>	I'd like to thank the Academy
[12:29]	<Dom|Butt>	heh, Ciao is zee funny \o
[12:29]	<CiaoTime>	always wanted to say that on camera
Also, Guv_na!
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[12:34]	<Dom|Butt>	mmk
[12:34]	<Dom|Butt>	Guv_na
[12:34]	<Dom|Butt>	friend :D
[12:34]	<Guv_na>	Ask and I will tell
[12:35]	<Dom|Butt>	first of all, do you consider yourself an average user?
[12:35]	<Guv_na>	An average user plus the ability to mod certain sections I guess
[12:35]	<Dom|Butt>	So your a local mod?
[12:35]	<Guv_na>	Yes, Wibbles, and some parts of elerk
[12:36]	<Dom|Butt>	fellow elerk mod \o
[12:36]	<Dom|Butt>	anyway
[12:36]	<Dom|Butt>	Do you enjoy your position?
[12:36]	<Dom|Butt>	even if your not an smod?
[12:36]	<Guv_na>	Very much so. I don't do much outside of school, so I'm online a LOT
[12:36]	<Guv_na>	I got a lot of porn off of Wibbles a few days ago
[12:37]	<Dom|Butt>	That's good \o, and you've been around a long time right?
[12:37]	<Guv_na>	Yes. My join date is but a new account than my first one.
[12:37]	<Guv_na>	I've been around since 06 actuallty
[12:37]	<Dom|Butt>	3 on and off years?
[12:38]	<Guv_na>	Yes. I was stricken with poverty, so I had no internet for some time.
[12:38]	<Guv_na>	Not by choice
[12:38]	<Dom|Butt>	owy.
[12:38]	<Dom|Butt>	So do you like our smod team?
[12:38]	<Guv_na>	For the most part, I am happy with the current selection
[12:39]	<Dom|Butt>	Any bad apples?
[12:39]	<Guv_na>	I'm not falling for that.
[12:39]	<Guv_na>	But I WILL say
[12:40]	<Guv_na>	Ask those kids in Phoenix clan about the bad apples.
[12:40]	=-=	RedDevil is now known as ouch_guv_na
[12:40]	=-=	ouch_guv_na is now known as RedDevil
[12:40]	<Dom|Butt>	are you inplying kitfox?
[12:40]	<Dom|Butt>	implying*
[12:40]	<Dom|Butt>	w/e
[12:40]	<Guv_na>	I don't know much about the situation, but the leader came to me telling me that he was being flamed by administration
[12:40]	<Guv_na>	Of course
[12:40]	<Guv_na>	Not
[12:41]	<Guv_na>	KiTFoX is my favorite.
[12:41]	<Dom|Butt>	duh :p,
[12:41]	<Dom|Butt>	So, do you think the smod team gets the thanks they deserve?
[12:42]	<Guv_na>	They get adequate thanks. As you said in another interview, they don't get paid
[12:42]	<Guv_na>	Shouldn't have a fucking parade for them
[12:42]	<Guv_na>	Us actually
[12:42]	<Guv_na>	We just do it to do it
[12:42]	<Dom|Butt>	You don't think the smods deserve a "parade"
[12:43]	<Guv_na>	I said we thank them enough.
[12:43]	<Dom|Butt>	mmmhm..
[12:44]	<Dom|Butt>	And because you've been around for a while
[12:44]	<Dom|Butt>	do you think you should be bigger than a wibblecop?
[12:44]	<Dom|Butt>	/elerk mod
[12:44]	<Guv_na>	It matters little to me.
[12:44]	<Guv_na>	I don't crave internet power
[12:44]	<Guv_na>	Whatever my position is, then fine
[12:44]	<Guv_na>	Besides
[12:45]	<Guv_na>	I'll tell you this
[12:45]	<Guv_na>	The respect I get amongst the members isn't fabricated like the usualy staff members
[12:45]	<Guv_na>	usual*
[12:45]	<Guv_na>	For instance
[12:45]	<Guv_na>	When I was a normal member, I got respect for my personality alone.
[12:46]	<Guv_na>	In ANY forum, not just this one
[12:46]	<Guv_na>	People get an aoutomatic respect boost from the new members just from being a mod, or a female
[12:46]	<Guv_na>	At another forum...
[12:46]	<Guv_na>	I was flamed by staff members so badly, I had to leave.
[12:47]	<Dom|Butt>	hmm
[12:47]	<Dom|Butt>	Smods do more than just have power.
[12:47]	<Guv_na>	That's why I identify with those Phoenix kids who were getting picked on by some staffers
[12:47]	<Guv_na>	Of course
[12:47]	<Dom|Butt>	And you say you dont vrave internet power
[12:47]	<Dom|Butt>	crave*
[12:47]	<Guv_na>	I do ont
[12:48]	<Dom|Butt>	If you were an smod, don't you think you could help more?
[12:48]	<Guv_na>	Of course I would
[12:48]	<Guv_na>	Without question.
[12:48]	<Guv_na>	I'd even stop there.
[12:48]	<Guv_na>	Wouldn't even need admin later down the road
[12:48]	<Dom|Butt>	So you DO want to be bigger?
[12:48]	<Guv_na>	I would just clean up all the shit I find on the forums
[12:49]	<Guv_na>	I said I'd be good for the job, whatever happens happens
[12:49]	<Guv_na>	I'm not trying to influence anything in any way as far as usergroup provileges go
[12:49]	<Dom|Butt>	Good. I had that mentality...
[12:49]	<Dom|Butt>	Mmmk anything you'd like to add?
[12:50]	<Guv_na>	OK
[12:50]	<Guv_na>	gimme a minute
[12:50]	* Guv_na	tips hat
[12:50]	<Guv_na>	That is all
[12:50]	<Dom|Butt>	well put sir.
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[10:17][10:50] <diskimage> Where can I find the Toribash license?
12:41] <Dom|Butt> So, do you think the smod team gets the thanks they deserve?
[12:42] <Guv_na> They get adequate thanks. As you said in another interview, they don't get paid
[12:42] <Guv_na> Shouldn't have a fucking parade for them
[12:42] <Guv_na> Us actually
[12:42] <Guv_na> We just do it to do it
[12:42] <Dom|Butt> You don't think the smods deserve a "parade"
[12:43] <Guv_na> I said we thank them enough.


I changed my mind about that. My original thought was "Why thanks? If we don't do it, someone else will."

But now I think of it as us spending out valuable time to moderate the discussion boards. So a little appreciation is in order.
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That's the spirit! Thank you mod team!
Personally, I think things are pretty balanced as is.
[10:17][10:50] <diskimage> Where can I find the Toribash license?