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Old 1 Week Ago   #1
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@ES, do shit
This is the events board.

There are no active events. Anyone else remember the days when there were at least 3 current ES events running at once? The suggestion is simple, "start doing shit".

ES, pull your socks up. Events inspire activity (=more active playerbase), so start producing more events..

Staff response:
Originally Posted by Icky
Hi guys.

Point 1: It's the holidays for us too. We have lives.

Point 2: we've lost a few ES due to point one and real life factors outside of thiose.

Point 3: We have lives. (A repeat, but one that should never be forgotten)

Point 4: Users are free to do their own too.

Point 5: We have Christmas ones for Christmas. Pushing out events that will take up time and resources is a silly thing to do.

Point 6: We have bigger, non-Christmas events on the list that also take our time.

We felt that it was better to do higher quality events more often than recycled garbage. If the community prefers we perfect a good solid amount( i.e. not garbage) and recycled them, then let us know by discussing it like the suggestion board requires in an actual thread that's geared toward that from the start. This reads like a complaint shoved in the S&I board for the sake of stirring the pot.

Point 7: You wanna try sending out 120+ items in a MEGA CLUNKY sending system ONE AT A TIME while juggling uni+social life+holidays+family? (Plus other stuff)
Let one of us know lol, so we can forward your application to admin to those above us.

Tldr November is always quieter than the rest of the year, and for good reason. If you want quantity over quality, say so. Easy fix.

Respond to staff points.

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Old 1 Week Ago   #2
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Hollydays are almost here. Bet you will see a lot more events out there soon

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Events got boring since the day gms died.
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Old 1 Week Ago   #4
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The past 10 days only two es have hosted, blur and bands.(going off globals so might be wrong). 20 days back and only 3 es have hosted (bands, blur, and ping. also again i'm going off globals so might be wrong.) Whattup with that?
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Old 1 Week Ago   #5
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
The past 10 days only two es have hosted, blur and bands.(going off globals so might be wrong). 20 days back and only 3 es have hosted (bands, blur, and ping. also again i'm going off globals so might be wrong.) Whattup with that?

keep in mind that they're meant to host 3 times a week each.

not to mention the laziness in sending prizes as well as the lack of ST items.. all pretty shitty

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for a team who's supposed to be in-game the most, pretty disappointing.

@Insanity that's no excuse, events should be constant even if they're just small ones.

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Old 1 Week Ago   #6
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Originally Posted by Worm View Post
The past 10 days only two es have hosted, blur and bands.(going off globals so might be wrong). 20 days back and only 3 es have hosted (bands, blur, and ping. also again i'm going off globals so might be wrong.) Whattup with that?

Hi. As someone who has been on the GM team multiple times, I can tell you right now that November/December are always hard months because its usually end of school semesters, due deadlines at jobs, etc. and there is always an influx of new staff members during the summer (more free time) and they get weeded out during fall.

Originally Posted by Surge View Post
keep in mind that they're meant to host 3 times a week each.

Keep in mind that staff members are allowed a certain level of planned inactivity (if they warn about it beforehand). Also, hosting three times a week is actually a much bigger commitment than most people realize given that 99% of the staff members are volunteers.

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Ele, your post gives essentially no constructive criticism and like Icky said, it is essentially a rant towards staff more than anything else. Dunno why this hasn't been locked tbh.

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My 2 cents: ES/GM activity has always been cyclic. Recruitment drives bring an influx of new staff members who will nearly all be burnt out within the next 3-4 months. This can be temporarily fixed by, for example, giving better growth potential to staff members so that they don't feel like they've 'plateaued' upon being promoted from trial to full ES (remember, you cannot show that ES is a stepping stone for you, no matter how ambitious). You could have different ranks amongts ES to stimulate growth (junior ES, senior ES, however you want to call it...). This is used in actual Corporations, partially to prevent burnout and to give goals to employees to work towards. That would be a band aid fix though, because you can only add so many bars on a ladder before you discourage people from climbing it... This is just one example, but you get my point.

tl;dr Fixing the ES burnout should be the target here. Not focusing on hosting more events.
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Old 1 Week Ago   #7
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Originally Posted by Liquidoom View Post
Also, hosting three times a week is actually a much bigger commitment than most people realize given that 99% of the staff members are volunteers.

If you don't want to do shit, don't volunteer in the first place.

Originally Posted by Liquidoom View Post
Ele, your post gives essentially no constructive criticism and like Icky said, it is essentially a rant towards staff more than anything else. Dunno why this hasn't been locked tbh.

My OP contains the statement that ES activity is shit, and there needs to be more activity. It also contains Icky's response - A list of reasons why it's currently shit. Now, we're all having a discussion based on those reasons, and we're all positing different ideas of how to solve this problem, or even if there is a problem to be solved.

This suggestion thread is working exactly as it should be working. This is clear. Don't try to stop discussion and progress by having it closed after it's already been reopened and is running fine. How unconstructive is that!
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they still havent sent out all the bloody skulls ;-;
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Old 1 Week Ago   #9
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Hi guys.

Point 1: It's the holidays for us too. We have lives.

Point 2: we've lost a few ES due to point one and real life factors outside of thiose.

Point 3: We have lives. (A repeat, but one that should never be forgotten)

Point 4: Users are free to do their own too.

Point 5: We have Christmas ones for Christmas. Pushing out events that will take up time and resources is a silly thing to do.

Point 6: We have bigger, non-Christmas events on the list that also take our time.

We felt that it was better to do higher quality events more often than recycled garbage. If the community prefers we perfect a good solid amount( i.e. not garbage) and recycled them, then let us know by discussing it like the suggestion board requires in an actual thread that's geared toward that from the start. This reads like a complaint shoved in the S&I board for the sake of stirring the pot.

Point 7: You wanna try sending out 120+ items in a MEGA CLUNKY sending system ONE AT A TIME while juggling uni+social life+holidays+family? (Plus other stuff)
Let one of us know lol, so we can forward your application to admin to those above us.

Tldr November is always quieter than the rest of the year, and for good reason. If you want quantity over quality, say so. Easy fix.

I'll close this one so you can redo it after reframing it into an actual suggestion/idea.
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Wow, I didn't realize the situation was so dire. Now I see why ES is seeking to recruit new people.

Yeh, I'm pretty active so I guess I will Re-apply in a month (that is recommended time gap right?). I'm sure more people would host events outside of ES if they had the resources and influence that ES has.
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I hope they pick up some good, active, and creative candidates during the drive.

God bless 'em. We need spice in this community.

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