Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
Apple has reached the point where it simply enjoys from the lethargy of the people. Thats why its not even giving a much of a fuck about it...They'll buy it anyway.
Then it's people's fault for being mindless consumers.
If that is Apple's plan, then they are certainly doing something right.
Originally Posted by steve
Then it's people's fault for being mindless consumers.
If that is Apple's plan, then they are certainly doing something right.
"doing something right".... from which perspective? From the economic perspective?
Because from the ethical and moral its very far from being acceptable.
And its the people's fault for being mindless drones/consumers.
But its also Apple's fault for failing so hard on a critical component such as the antenna...
"There is enough on earth for everybody's need, but not for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
Originally Posted by GenkiSudo
"doing something right".... from which perspective? From the economic perspective?
Because from the ethical and moral its very far from being acceptable.
And its the people's fault for being mindless drones/consumers.
But its also Apple's fault for failing so hard on a critical component such as the antenna...
Are you the moral police or something?
As long as people continue to buy Apple's products it is no fault on their behalf.
You can cut the cheese any way you want, but in the end Apple is only in it for the money.
Apple could take a shit on all of their customers faces and as long as they are on time for their face-dump it's only their fault if they show up.
That being said, I do like Apple's products and I don't think they are dumping on my face.
:3
Originally Posted by steve
Are you the moral police or something?
Shouldn't we all do our best to be a part of that force?
As citizens and consumers, we have the right to protest against such wrongdoings, whatever they are (from the criminal, all the way to the ridicule such as an antenna placement). Thats why we have consumers defense organizations such as DECO in Portugal and many homologous organizations in all developed countries. There's a need for balance and fairness.
Originally Posted by steve
As long as people continue to buy Apple's products it is no fault on their behalf.
Why not recognizing both faults? I see multiple faults here. Lets be fair and not legitimize this type of conduct. OR else we'll start to see a really dark future ahead in terms of respect towards consumers. And I don't mean the "The consumer is always right" principle. I mean fair principles.
What about monopolies? You also think that just because the masses are stupid the corporations like Microsoft and Intel shouldn't be punished for their opportunistic behaviors that are illegal under US and European antitrust laws?
Originally Posted by steve
You can cut the cheese any way you want, but in the end Apple is only in it for the money.
Don't try to turn capitalism into an half-assed excuse more than it already is.
Getting money is not a justification for unethical behavior. Thats why monopolies are illegal. Maybe you should read a bit more on how the ends don't justify the means when it comes to getting money. Or else you'll end up with a more fucked up society than what it already is.
Originally Posted by steve
Apple could take a shit on all of their customers faces and as long as they are on time for their face-dump it's only their fault if they show up.
That being said, I do like Apple's products and I don't think they are dumping on my face.
:3
Oh now I get it... You'd rather blame the direct consumers (even tough you're one of them) than blame the corporation who's behind the poor design of the antenna... Isn't that sad?
Oh and wait some months. You'll see what happens to itunes store monopolistic position.
http://www.edibleapple.com/doj-inves...itrust-issues/
The answer is... Nothing will happen.. Just a small fine that Apple will easily pay from all of the catalyzed profit using with obscure methodology. Sadly the fines are never enough to punish these behaviors accordingly... And we have all the reasons to worry about it.
Last edited by GenkiSudo; Jul 21, 2010 at 08:59 PM.
"There is enough on earth for everybody's need, but not for everyone's greed." - Mohandas Gandhi
Frankly, Apple failed on this one.
your attempt to protect apple is really strange steve, you both despise the way it works, while defending that, that is the way it is, and we have no say in how it should be. Your tacit admission that apple is doing this, then your response that you like their products anyway is also awkward. Realize as I have that the point isn't "apple made it", the point is that the product sucks for such and such reasons, given it's price, can't you admit to that, and from there, can't you realize why people then associate this failure with apple?
your attempt to protect apple is really strange steve, you both despise the way it works, while defending that, that is the way it is, and we have no say in how it should be. Your tacit admission that apple is doing this, then your response that you like their products anyway is also awkward. Realize as I have that the point isn't "apple made it", the point is that the product sucks for such and such reasons, given it's price, can't you admit to that, and from there, can't you realize why people then associate this failure with apple?
