Original Post
Activity check and Legendary clans news
Good morning to all of you,
Today's news have been in discussion for quite a while among the clan staff team, and today they can finally be announced to the public.
What exactly is the news?
We have 2 major news points.
Thank you all for reading, if you have any questions or objections feel free to point them out in this thread, cheers.
Today's news have been in discussion for quite a while among the clan staff team, and today they can finally be announced to the public.
What exactly is the news?
We have 2 major news points.
1. Activity check automation, check criteria, deofficialization ►
2. Legendary clans updates ►
Thank you all for reading, if you have any questions or objections feel free to point them out in this thread, cheers.
Last edited by duck; Jul 22, 2018 at 08:20 PM.
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I read this pretty closely and tbh it seems like it'll work. The whole thing about not factoring out inactives was really fucking scary but seeing the list of clans that failed and that 50% thing you were talking about, it's fine with me
however
has there been any thought put into the deofficial meaning you have to get active using just one thread?
there was an event that made clans unofficial if they didn't place first
obey enter and didnt win, which was fine
the fact that we only had one thread all of a sudden killed us though, the only reason we got active again is because we invited some ally's to the clan to basically post nonsense convos until we got official again
once that happened, we all got back into it
having just one thread made things really bad though, don't you think it's just making things even harder for clans struggling and actually trying to get back?
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also there's still the issue of when you kill a clan with some godlike kinda inactive player in it (that still hangs around), they tend to just quit the game for good (where is Nuthug and Oblivion now?)
are you sure this is a benefit to the game and community
however
has there been any thought put into the deofficial meaning you have to get active using just one thread?
there was an event that made clans unofficial if they didn't place first
obey enter and didnt win, which was fine
the fact that we only had one thread all of a sudden killed us though, the only reason we got active again is because we invited some ally's to the clan to basically post nonsense convos until we got official again
once that happened, we all got back into it
having just one thread made things really bad though, don't you think it's just making things even harder for clans struggling and actually trying to get back?
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also there's still the issue of when you kill a clan with some godlike kinda inactive player in it (that still hangs around), they tend to just quit the game for good (where is Nuthug and Oblivion now?)
are you sure this is a benefit to the game and community
Last edited by Hattersin; Jul 7, 2018 at 12:12 PM.
Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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Well an easy fix to a simple problem would be to make forum and in game activity worth the same, so instead of it being 75/100 for in game and 25/100 for forum activity points make it 50/50 so in game activity can pass a clan and forum activity can pass a clan.
Seeing how many clans are on the warning/failed list are mostly forum active and how very few official clans are In game active, seeming most of the activity in game is unofficial clans or clanless people. You can do /sa [ and hardly see official clans some days, so trying to force in game activity on paper sounds good and has a good motive, in practice it doesn't work seeming people have lives, and tb probably for most people is such a little thing in their life compared to seeing friends, working and etc.
Seeing how many clans are on the warning/failed list are mostly forum active and how very few official clans are In game active, seeming most of the activity in game is unofficial clans or clanless people. You can do /sa [ and hardly see official clans some days, so trying to force in game activity on paper sounds good and has a good motive, in practice it doesn't work seeming people have lives, and tb probably for most people is such a little thing in their life compared to seeing friends, working and etc.
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As the Leader of Aeon i want to give you guys my thoughts on this..
You forced me to play 5 games today thx for that...
and now I wonder if even the Clan squad members do that or did that in the last weeks..
Or even any other Staff Group (beside ES).
If 31 Official Clans Fail this should show you
that either
1. the criteria are to harsh
or
2. Clans aren't that Active anymore as most of them have a Discorde Server and play more than just TB
Also i hate the Idea of giving points for Clan War stuff...
We (Aeon) for example never did a real CW so no pooins for Aeon
Oh and yeah if we find a way to dodge this we never will
And ofc thanks for making us Kick Inactiv MEMBERS we love and that are a part of Aeon!!!
This makes me rly sick
I'm sure most clans will finde a way to pass these tests or work around them and will be fine.
P.s.
Good luck Duck I hope you can manage to fulfill you wish to butcher clans and be the NEXT BIG THING in the Clan part of the Forum
You forced me to play 5 games today thx for that...
and now I wonder if even the Clan squad members do that or did that in the last weeks..
Or even any other Staff Group (beside ES).
If 31 Official Clans Fail this should show you
that either
1. the criteria are to harsh
or
2. Clans aren't that Active anymore as most of them have a Discorde Server and play more than just TB
Also i hate the Idea of giving points for Clan War stuff...
We (Aeon) for example never did a real CW so no pooins for Aeon
Oh and yeah if we find a way to dodge this we never will
And ofc thanks for making us Kick Inactiv MEMBERS we love and that are a part of Aeon!!!
This makes me rly sick
I'm sure most clans will finde a way to pass these tests or work around them and will be fine.
P.s.
Good luck Duck I hope you can manage to fulfill you wish to butcher clans and be the NEXT BIG THING in the Clan part of the Forum
Last edited by TheAnimal; Jul 7, 2018 at 03:34 PM.
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If you read this post, please ignore the fact that I am in a staff position. I have absolutely no idea of how does the Clan Squad work and I am not related to them in any way. Just think of me as a normal user.
"This kills 75 % of the clans!"
Yes, if a purge happened right now, they would all be killed off, definitely.
However, the time period is 3 months.
That's a long time, and you only need to play 5 games in a month.
Not 5 games every day as the above post may give such an image, but in a month.
That's only a bit more than one game a week, which you can get done by joining ES hosted events, checking out a fun mod, hanging around with friends, etc.
I don't see how this can kill 75 % of all clans, all of a sudden.
"We have to kick our beloved inactive members!"
I admit I'm not entirely sure what determines an "inactive member".
Is it simply the length of how long they have not logged in to the game?
Has it been weeks? Months? Years?
Are they inactive in the game only, and they still frequent the forums and/or Discord?
Does it matter if an inactive member is kicked out for being gone for a long time?
Especially if they gave no reason to their absence?
Not like everyone absolutely needs to give a reason.
Sometimes other things start interesting a person more than Toribash, and it just happens.
If they come back, they can just ask to join back.
If they're your friends, I'm sure they wouldn't be offended, no?
I don't see the problem here.
"Our members come to Toribash forums only to check their clan and friends!"
There are better alternatives for get-togethers than a forum board.
Discord is a tool used especially for that!
And it's good at it, too.
If they have no desire to play Toribash, then indeed it is meaningless to try to force them to play Toribash to show their activity.
Thus, wouldn't it be wiser to make a Discord server where no restrictions are in place?
Or IRC, if that's more your thing?
There definitely are alternatives.
"They want people to become more active because Toribash is dying!"
Ahh, there definitely are better solutions than that.
That's why the staff group I'm in, the Event Squad, is here, after all!
I'm certain they aren't that desperate to get people to be active.
Besides, for a dying community, getting more people to play the game should be the goal, not forcing current members to play.
The yet unknown public is a far larger market than the feeble amount of players we have right now.
I just feel using words such as "blackmail" is taking the problem way out of proportions.
As for worries about Alpha and [T], this is just me, but I think those clans are already legend material as they are.
"This kills 75 % of the clans!"
Yes, if a purge happened right now, they would all be killed off, definitely.
However, the time period is 3 months.
That's a long time, and you only need to play 5 games in a month.
Not 5 games every day as the above post may give such an image, but in a month.
That's only a bit more than one game a week, which you can get done by joining ES hosted events, checking out a fun mod, hanging around with friends, etc.
I don't see how this can kill 75 % of all clans, all of a sudden.
"We have to kick our beloved inactive members!"
I admit I'm not entirely sure what determines an "inactive member".
Is it simply the length of how long they have not logged in to the game?
Has it been weeks? Months? Years?
Are they inactive in the game only, and they still frequent the forums and/or Discord?
Does it matter if an inactive member is kicked out for being gone for a long time?
Especially if they gave no reason to their absence?
Not like everyone absolutely needs to give a reason.
Sometimes other things start interesting a person more than Toribash, and it just happens.
If they come back, they can just ask to join back.
If they're your friends, I'm sure they wouldn't be offended, no?
I don't see the problem here.
"Our members come to Toribash forums only to check their clan and friends!"
There are better alternatives for get-togethers than a forum board.
Discord is a tool used especially for that!
And it's good at it, too.
If they have no desire to play Toribash, then indeed it is meaningless to try to force them to play Toribash to show their activity.
Thus, wouldn't it be wiser to make a Discord server where no restrictions are in place?
Or IRC, if that's more your thing?
There definitely are alternatives.
"They want people to become more active because Toribash is dying!"
Ahh, there definitely are better solutions than that.
That's why the staff group I'm in, the Event Squad, is here, after all!
I'm certain they aren't that desperate to get people to be active.
Besides, for a dying community, getting more people to play the game should be the goal, not forcing current members to play.
The yet unknown public is a far larger market than the feeble amount of players we have right now.
I just feel using words such as "blackmail" is taking the problem way out of proportions.
As for worries about Alpha and [T], this is just me, but I think those clans are already legend material as they are.
