Regarding the "fuck immigrants" thing
I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).
That said, muslims =/= immigrants.
People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.
Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor is it a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you and all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.
Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.
And for those who have the nerve to claim that screaming "allahu akrab" while killing over 100 "infidels" in the name of allah has nothing to do with religion, or islam:
Eat a crusted poo.
I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).
That said, muslims =/= immigrants.
People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.
Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor is it a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you and all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.
Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.
And for those who have the nerve to claim that screaming "allahu akrab" while killing over 100 "infidels" in the name of allah has nothing to do with religion, or islam:
Eat a crusted poo.
Last edited by cowmeat; Nov 14, 2015 at 11:38 AM.
Elitist
Originally Posted by desu
As much as the number immigrants flocking to Europe is unrealistic and unsustainable, the perpetrators are not Immigrants but militant ISIS members.
Also to the people who said that the shooters don't matter, I disagree, Isis needs to be stopped.
These shootings are linked to the Hebdo incident imo
We currently don't know who the shooters are and why they did this. The attacks were not claimed by Isis. Actually, there is only our president, Mr Hollande, who knows that.
EDIT : Isis claimed by the attacks.
Originally Posted by Hyde
I've been saying it for a while. Do not accept refugees. Closed borders are a good thing. Let the middle east sort themselves out.
Other than not introducing people who are already extremists into the general population, not antagonizing the already existing populace and disenfranchising youth would be a good place to start.
The only way forward is to step back. Remove schengen until the world is stable. Progress cannot be made as it stands.
I don't quite know what to say about the victims... It's such a terrible fate, I can't imagine the sheer terror they went through. My heart goes out to them and their families.
If we let the middle east sort themselves out, it will just get worst and we'll be more exposed to the power of growing threats like Isis. About the immigrants, I'll just quote Neko :
Originally Posted by Neko
No one puts their children on a boat unless the water is safer than the land, no one runs for the border unless they see their whole city running too.
For fuck sake have some humanity, who gives a shit who people are or where they're from they're fucking humans. You had the fortune of being born and raised in a first world country. These people doing harm will do harm regardless of whether or not they're legally allowed in the country. There will always be people harming others. Harming humans. I don't understand at all the lack of compassion and empathy displayed by so many
Terrorism has no religion, it has no nationality. Stop pretending that officials in Downing Street or the White House are any less of terrorists than those involved in ISIS.
I don't care what recourses refugees drain, I don't care what religion or creed they follow. I don't care what country they are from. They seek asylum. No one leaves home unless home is the mouth of a shark.
Originally Posted by cowmeat
Regarding the "fuck immigrants" thing
I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).
That said, muslims =/= immigrants.
People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.
Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor it is a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you, all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.
Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.
Reported, I don't even want to argue. I can't blame you for being ignorant. One day, try to read the first pages of the Qur'an.
Last edited by Flosax; Nov 14, 2015 at 12:46 PM.
its hard cuz i saw the video about it on dailymotion
but its like a paradox now the fuckin eu was like ohh u fuckin racist hungarian bastards locked down their border-.-.-.-.-
we got bullied on how can we lock our borders from migrants....
ALSO its really surprizing when we let a million migrant islamic people inside
and 80% of them arround from 18-40 years old male
OKAY i say let inside the children and womens okay but it should be like 50-50
these are fuckin not refugees they got aims and somehow they get weapons in europe otherwise how cannot they kill ppl
but its like a paradox now the fuckin eu was like ohh u fuckin racist hungarian bastards locked down their border-.-.-.-.-
we got bullied on how can we lock our borders from migrants....
ALSO its really surprizing when we let a million migrant islamic people inside
and 80% of them arround from 18-40 years old male
OKAY i say let inside the children and womens okay but it should be like 50-50
these are fuckin not refugees they got aims and somehow they get weapons in europe otherwise how cannot they kill ppl
Originally Posted by Hyde
I don't think you understand what I mean. By allowing immigrants, you allow a lane of access for people who wish to do you harm. I'm not saying the immigrants are bad people nor am I saying that they are affiliated with ISIS or any other terrorist organization. I'm just saying that Europe should not host them. Europe does not need immigrants, nor does Europe have a moral obligation to do so. The Turks/Jordanians/Saudis should bear the responsibility, given that they are the powers that be in the region.
Sure, this is all good if you value the lives of people of your own nationality higher than the life of people of other nationalities. I think that's where our opinions differ. An incident is equally terrible wherever it's happening in the world, but when it happens in developing countries people tend to care less, if it's even covered in the news.
It's not a coincidence that the worst fundamentalism and extremism comes from the most impoverished countries in the world. You have to realize these are desperate people who simply don't have the means to support their families. I'm not trying to justify their actions, but I want to make the point that terrorists are not the result of culture, but the result of desperation.
If you truly wanted to solve the problem, you should do the very opposite of "leaving them to sort out their mess", because it's only going to get worse unless we actively try to help.
EDIT: I hope we're all agreed that the burning of the Calais migrant camp that happened the night after the attack is an action equally despicable. Not comparable in scale, but absolutely comparable in motives.
Last edited by Lazors; Nov 14, 2015 at 01:22 PM.
Brendan (he who passeth judgement on the frequent changing of signatures): I don't do hentai anymore
Originally Posted by cowmeat
Regarding the "fuck immigrants" thing
I openly, and actively hate Islam at this point, and don't understand why everyone doesn't? It's a barbaric faith of murderers and bigots that only an idiot or a monster could participate in (or someone who doesn't have a choice).
That said, muslims =/= immigrants.
People tend to blame immigrants for the attack, which isn't the case. It's the byproduct of many things, but immigrants from Vietnam, or Ukraine don't tend to carry out such acts.
Islam isn't the only reason for these attacks obviously, but don't compare acts only targeted at civilians to cause terror with war, those aren't the same thing.
Islam is a choice, its not a race, nor is it a skin color. It's a belief, and if you believe in such horrible things, I despise you and all of the billion people who claim to be muslims.
Once more, don't hate the immigrants for they had to leave their homes in need of help. They are the ones who also need sympathy in this world. But do despise every single muslim, not because they might be bad people, but because they support such a horrible faith. What happened in Paris was obviously a tragedy, but don't take it out on all immigrants, that wont help anyone, and will just cause more suffering.
And for those who have the nerve to claim that screaming "allahu akrab" while killing over 100 "infidels" in the name of allah has nothing to do with religion, or islam:
Eat a crusted poo.
Mr. Cow,
Islam is not an evil religion. The terrorists simply mold it and manipulate it to fit their agendas.
Also, Allah means God FYI.
Also also, its ashame the middle east is full of innocent people. We could easily wipe it off the face of the earth.
I deleted my sig cuz clan bai nao
