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Old May 15, 2017 Original Post  
hampa
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Toribash Next announcement.
I've started to build a new Toribash version, code name Toribash Next.

While the current engine is super awesome it was written 12 years ago.

Things I want to add to the new engine:
- 2vs2, 3vs1 and brawl games
- Built with animations and models from the start
- Ingame multiplayer modding (mod rooms together)
- Ingame inventory and trading
- Run your own servers

Some technical details for those interested:
- Engine (Unity3D)
- Plattforms (Windows, OSX)
- Backend (Steam and standalone)

Economy:
- Part of the economy will be decentralised (we will have our own BitCoin type currency). This will allow players to trade outside the forum.
- The giveaway Toribash Next Token will eventually transferable to this new section of our economy.

Questions & Answers:

QA



If you have more questions, I'll keep this top post updated.

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Old 1 Day Ago   #1361
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So you think that if they just fix the bugs and keep the game exactly the same, that it’ll attract players? Are you that ignorant? A sequel to ANY game has upgraded mechanics, just fixing bugs to a dead game without updating more then just bugs, isn’t going to reach out to old players who’ve left or new ears that might want to try to play, it’ll just keep those thirty players you claim are playing keep playing, that’s it. You clearly don’t know how developing a game works. If people don’t want to spend time learning new mechanics for a new game, stay with the old game, or better yet, just go play call of duty. People spent years to learn these mechanics well and have enjoyed it enough to continue playing, so I do not see why you think that the devs should replicate the mechanics.
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Old 1 Day Ago   #1362
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i've bolded my main points so maybe it will be a bit easier to digest because for some reason nobody can understand me lol

old game with shitty engine = 0 new players, only old players
new game with better engine that feels absolutely nothing like toribash = 0 new players and 30% of old players that think the new toribash feels like a shitty binklawz mod
i'm obviously not fucking saying that fixing bugs will attract new players. i'm saying i really can't see anything that can be done to attract new players.

this game is brutally hard. people don't like hard games that take years of learning. people like easy games that are hard to master. people like games that take maybe a day or two to get the hang of. and most of all, people like games that are rewarding. there is no reward for being good at toribash. if you're good at MP, what happens? you play rng karate with some random retard. if you're good at SP, what happens? you post replays to your thread and bump it 4 times a week for cnc



of course they should add new features lol
i'm glad you think i'm ignorant, and i'm even more glad you completely ignored what i said. a majority of old players probably play this either for dueling or nostalgia. mods are already killing dueling by handling reports terribly/making ridiculous decisions and not supporting usd duels, so what do the nostalgic players have to come back to when this new game comes out? 11 years of replays will not work. 11 years of mods will not work. if you're not playing for either of those 2 reasons you're honestly just using it as a social platform, which discord beats toribash in lol

what do you think people are going to do when this game comes out? the fact of the matter is this game has no value to a new player. you sit in a queue for 5 minutes (in a SMALL server) just to kind of click a couple of joints and get rocked by someone who has an idea of the game. maybe compare this to literally any other game, there is actually nothing as monotonous as that. there is no "WOW i wish i could do that!" when a new player watches someone play abd lol. i really don't understand what you think this game has that will attract any new players at all. what's going to happen is when tb next comes out is a surge of players that say "o yeah i played that like 5 years ago let me hop on" then they will remember exactly why they only played it once and quit. fixing the waiting times is impossible. you can't make the matches go by faster without rushing players and ruining the experience entirely for those playing, but there's not really a workaround for the 5 minute wait time other than maybe adding a minigame or something


you're acting like i don't want tb next to work lmfao
i want to play the game i've been playing for 7 years without feeling like i'm playing a fan-made knock off. it seems none of you would be content with a quality game coming out of this, and that's what i don't understand. why settle for something that doesn't feel like toribash? all the people saying "ye the game shouldn't feel the same... it's a new game..." look at all of the call of duty games that u could fly and shit in lmfao, people fucking hated those because they didn't feel like what they were used to playing.

what toribash next devs need to take into mind are how to get rid of the things that are driving off new players. wait times, extremely toxic community, (i'm pretty bad but that's my point, i'm still here lol) actual hard work to learn how to play. and unfortunately a majority of these problems can't be fixed


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Old 15 Hours Ago   #1363
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I agree very much with Derzai, Since 2013 I've been just seein toribash going in a spiral down to what the game becomes today, why someone play a game? to get the feeling of being rewared, in 2013 you could play some tourneys (MUCH TOURNEYS, everyone had a mod that it liked and It was about 12 different mod tourney rooms, everyone could get some tc and play it own mod by himself) after taking 1/2 from the servers out, they killed like 1/2 players of it, since 2017 toribash is only degrading
Where'd you expect us to go when the bombs fall?
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Old 19 Minutes Ago   #1364
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Super pessimistic viewpoint, what guarantees the new game will feel like a shitty binklawz mod lmao.

Also if there's no reward, then why did you ever play? What made you do it? Some people like the feeling of progress and it doesn't always have to be artificial. You say things like why settle for something that doesn't feel like toribash, but have you even played tb next? If you have then damn my b you got me, but it's still your opinion.

You just kinda seem like someone who doesn't want change, even if you aren't that's how you seem, I can get it though, people have put time into this and many don't want to start anew.

The problem of the learning curve has always been there, and if people got through it in the earlier days, people will get through it now, hopefully it's fun enough to dick around that people don't get discouraged at not being immediately good.
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