Pff, apple is perfectly justified in their prices. It's pretty easy to see, too. I just wish more people would notice it and stop saying how expensive and dumb apple is. Anyway, the reason it costs so much is it has an apple logo and you're paying for all that extra gloss and chrome. You get a lot for your money. Plus everyone recognizes that you own a shiny apple product. It's great, well wroth the money, guys.
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Originally Posted by Yourface
Lol'd through the entire thing. It's so true.
Now, I should write a rant on why you should make a custom PC instead of buying a DELL.
That or I could just say that you can get a computer twice as better for the same price.
I also almost c/p'd it into photoshop and red-pen-ed it all because of your comment.
Feel free to, also I'd love to see one about building a custom PC, if you want any help finding good parts for examples just ask, or if you can't be bothered say here and I'll do that my self.
Originally Posted by isaac
Pff, apple is perfectly justified in their prices. It's pretty easy to see, too. I just wish more people would notice it and stop saying how expensive and dumb apple is. Anyway, the reason it costs so much is it has an apple logo and you're paying for all that extra gloss and chrome. You get a lot for your money. Plus everyone recognizes that you own a shiny apple product. It's great, well wroth the money, guys.
Apple may be entitled to changed whatever they want, but that doesn't mean that their products are worth what they charge. By example if Dell changed the same amount Apple charges, minus around £100, (which is around the price Microsoft charges for windows 7.) would they be charging a fair amount? Remember, the hardware inside a dell and an apple machine is the same stuff.
(Plus it's not like PC's can't be good looking; http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.co...altake_l10.jpg )
Originally Posted by Gorman
I wish for apple hardware, windows OS, with linux pricing ;)
Apple doesn't make hardware, they just lease other company's to make it :P
Sure, they put it together, but it's not quite the same.
Plus, all those components are a generation out of date;
CPU used: Nehalem
Current CPU architecture from Intel: SandyBridge
GPU used: ATI Radeon 5000 series.
Current GPU series from AMD: 6000 series.
Optical Drive: combi
Current generation of optical drive: Blue-Ray
RAM amount/speed: 3GB/1333MHz
Commonly recommended RAM amount/speed: 4GB/1600MHz
Personally I'd want my self an i72600K (CPU) with 8GBs of 1600MHz RAM and a 560 GTX, that'd be a kick ass PC. The only thing apple has up to date there is their LED screens, which have the most silly prices I've seen in a while, for a design that's several years old now.
Last edited by Vox; Apr 4, 2011 at 09:40 AM.
Apple hardware -> hardware that Apple uses in their products
I didn't say they had to make it.
Besides, I wasn't talking about whatever random product you picked there.
I was talking about the macbook pro with the sandybridge processors.
Also, why on earth would I want an optical drive? And I wouldn't want a GPU like that in a laptop. The macbook pro comes with 4gb stock, 8 upgraded. And a 2.7ghz i7 w/ sandy bridge processor. I am disillusioned to GPUs now, not caught up in the hype or at all really.
Just noticed something strange too, you chose to examine one of Apple's oldest models, and a desktop no less. Isn't that weird?
Seems like you are trying REALLY hard to make apple look bad... Which is kind of embarrassing and insincere. If Apple really is worse you shouldn't have to try this hard huh?
Seems like your fanboyism is getting hold of you man.
I didn't say they had to make it.
Besides, I wasn't talking about whatever random product you picked there.
I was talking about the macbook pro with the sandybridge processors.
Also, why on earth would I want an optical drive? And I wouldn't want a GPU like that in a laptop. The macbook pro comes with 4gb stock, 8 upgraded. And a 2.7ghz i7 w/ sandy bridge processor. I am disillusioned to GPUs now, not caught up in the hype or at all really.
Just noticed something strange too, you chose to examine one of Apple's oldest models, and a desktop no less. Isn't that weird?
Seems like you are trying REALLY hard to make apple look bad... Which is kind of embarrassing and insincere. If Apple really is worse you shouldn't have to try this hard huh?
Seems like your fanboyism is getting hold of you man.
Originally Posted by Gorman
Apple hardware -> hardware that Apple uses in their products
I didn't say they had to make it.
Besides, I wasn't talking about whatever random product you picked there.
I was talking about the macbook pro with the sandybridge processors.
Also, why on earth would I want an optical drive? And I wouldn't want a GPU like that in a laptop. The macbook pro comes with 4gb stock, 8 upgraded. And a 2.7ghz i7 w/ sandy bridge processor. I am disillusioned to GPUs now, not caught up in the hype or at all really.
Just noticed something strange too, you chose to examine one of Apple's oldest models, and a desktop no less. Isn't that weird?
Seems like you are trying REALLY hard to make apple look bad... Which is kind of embarrassing and insincere. If Apple really is worse you shouldn't have to try this hard huh?
Seems like your fanboyism is getting hold of you man.
In order:
No, your right you didn't, I was being a tad pedantic, my bad.
You should probably make that clear in your post then, you can't expect me to read your other posts as a cumulative post, that doesn't make much sense, especially since that makes your post off topic.
Why would you want an optical drive: I use them to read CDs, DVDs and Blue-Ray disks, I don't know why you specifically would want one, that depends on what storage mediums you use, either way people use disks, so over charging for an optical disk drive is still a bad thing.
Yea, I'm more comfortable examining desktops because I'm not a mobile guy, as my rant said I don't know a huge amount about the mobile market, and I wouldn't offer advice about something I don't know about, also I was imitating an image that did a similar thing (for fun), however I don't have that source currently. Basically my opinion of Apple is they over charge people for very common products, simply with the power of marketing, and yes I'm against that, as I said in the same post I'd be willing to do this to Dell as well compared to building your own PC, it just so happens Apple is an easy target. Also if Apple choose to have only old models available for their lower budget desktop range that's not my fault. I picked the most up to date model on offer for that specification.
Fayboy? Of what? Dell? Or just 'not Apple', I don't understand what your random accusation is getting at, if it's flame don't answer this question and I'll pretend we never went down that path :P
Anyway I'm not interested in this kind of discussion, I am interested in "can you justify the £1000 mark-up on this product?". The best point you made there was that my argument is irrelevant because their product is out of date, and if your sticking with that argument then I accept it might be unfair to compare a mobile computing company to a desktop computing company, but Apple don't claim that they don't do desktops, and this is a product they offer that implicitly claims to be up to date.
[EDIT] A couple points I didn't really touch on before: (paraphrased)
"Why would you want a GPU like that in a laptop anyway?":
This thread is about mac desktops, just to clarify, however having a powerful graphics card in a laptop has the benefits of being able to play games, or if your like me help you to test games you are creating.
"The macbook pro comes with...":
Well, I really want to respond here and actually debate weather that product is a viable option, but as I said, that'd be off topic.
"You're trying to hard":
Best. Argument. Ever.
Last edited by Vox; Apr 4, 2011 at 02:31 PM.
