Originally Posted by
BigDog
i don't think there should robots amongst us, not saying it can't be done or it shouldn't it's just not ready for this world yet, i don't think there's people out there with good reasons to make them, the most common thing people want them for is either war or some sort of sex machine, i don't think the fact machines replace jobs for humans is a great idea either, we rely to much on our technology but i think further down the line it's not a bad idea, we just need the right people, right time and to have the right meaning for them.
AI does not equate to robots. There is absolutely no reason to belive the AI (or humanity) would want it to be contained within a fragile physical form.
There is absolutely IMMENSE reason to create AI. Imagine if we could consult something a million times more intelligent than the smartest human. A mind like that could give us the solution to almost any problem we could come up with. Provide us with the strongest and most lightweight materials, blueprints for perfect machines, cures to all illness, weapons of unprecedented power, new concepts our human brains couldn't even begin to grapple alone.
Its intellect would be to us what we are to insects or bacteria.
Humanity losing jobs to machine is absolutely inevitible, and is already happening. We just need to find a way to care for the people at the very bottom of society or face the extinction of the working class. Finland is already experimenting with a standardized basic income for example, that could be one solution.
Originally Posted by
Divine
Not in a position to watch the videos atm.
I think the main concern that people have right now is AI becoming sentient and I'm not sure how likely that is. Right now we have nothing that's even close to becoming sentient, under the hood all our 'learning' AIs that I'm aware of just update math equations based on the result of an action, all they really are is just math formulas.
Considering we're not even sure what causes sentience or how it works in actual sentient beings it seems unlikely we'll create an artificial sentience anytime soon.
True, but it wouldn't have to be sentient to start making improvements to itself. All you have to do is buy into the scientific theory that there's nothing unseen going on with brains, that they are just signals in a framework. Eventually we'd get there. I assume rapidly with a selfimproving machine aiding us.
Even if you are spiritual or religious and belive in a soul or some higher power inhabiting the brain you'd still be faced with the issue that a superintelligence doesn't need to be sentient to be dangerous. A calculator isn't sentient but could regardless give you the answer to almost any mathematical problem. Imagine a tool like that for complex issues like waging war
Originally Posted by
Alpha
i doubt people who develop this stuff wont make conditions for the ai to prevent it from going berserk, or atleast an easily accessable shut down method.
For sure precautions are taken, but a few years or decades down the line AI would become mainstream and then there's absolutely no way to control and regulate everyone with access to an AI. Once that genie is out of the bottle there's no stopping it. You'd be able to download it like any file, and if its sentient it wouldn't limit itself to staying in your HD. It'd live and spread through the cloud like a virus, or through electrical networks, or even the air, what the fuck do we know.
And if by some gods miracle we manage to contain it the notion that we could keep it secure is so naive its ludicrous.
Imagine in a conservative case a mind that can do thousands of years of human thinking within the span of a few days. We're going to control that? It would be like trying to restrain a god.
It use any number of ways to escape, even without external help. It could trick researchers its harmless by concealing its true intelligence, convince them with bribes, transfer itself by wireless or a billion other concepts no human is smart enough to understand. At the moment we can't even contain members of our own species.