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Public Auctions for Reclaimed Textures
Okay so as things are now when someone is banned from Toribash they lose
everything from their account (items, qi, the account, everything), but what
about their textures? I personally think that if someone is stupid enough to
do something to get permabanned then their textures should also be reclaimed
from then as well. Now I'm not saying sink art for good, but what we can do
is have public auctions for the textures to keep them circulating through the
community and out of the hands of the scammers/riggers that got banned
in the first place, the textures could also be donated to the Event Squad for
events they are hosting, either way its fine as long and the textures stay in
circulation.

There is nothing worth then a scammer getting on an alt after being banned
and trying to sell expensive texture sets, he's already been marked as an
untrustworthy player by his main being Permabanned, so why players have
to buy art from an shady alt of a shady player. You can say "well just don't
buy it" but at the same time look at the current art community. We don't
have a thriving one like the old days and good sets are becoming more and
more rare, we can't afford to just sink art.
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Originally Posted by K0HTA View Post
Okay so as things are now when someone is banned from Toribash they lose
everything from their account (items, qi, the account, everything), but what
about their textures? I personally think that if someone is stupid enough to
do something to get permabanned then their textures should also be reclaimed
from then as well. Now I'm not saying sink art for good, but what we can do
is have public auctions for the textures to keep them circulating through the
community and out of the hands of the scammers/riggers that got banned
in the first place, the textures could also be donated to the Event Squad for
events they are hosting, either way its fine as long and the textures stay in
circulation.

There is nothing worth then a scammer getting on an alt after being banned
and trying to sell expensive texture sets, he's already been marked as an
untrustworthy player by his main being Permabanned, so why players have
to buy art from an shady alt of a shady player. You can say "well just don't
buy it" but at the same time look at the current art community. We don't
have a thriving one like the old days and good sets are becoming more and
more rare, we can't afford to just sink art.


Tc can have real money value, if someone buys tc then buys a texture(or set), and then gets banned, why is it right to take that art away from them? I have an entire folder of many texture sets and head textures from the past few years on my computer, even though I've quit playing the game entirely and only use the forum, I still want to keep what I "bought" even if it isn't helping the community.
Collectors who earn their money fairly then do something banned to get perma banned should have the right to own their textures.

Unless it was bought with scammed tc, I don't think someone could have the right to just take that away from them. Plus alts and people starting fresh are a thing, so if anyone came back and somebody already had a texture that might create something really convoluted and frustrating for everyone involved.

Or maybe I'm missing the point idk
Originally Posted by K0HTA View Post
Okay so as things are now when someone is banned from Toribash they lose
everything from their account (items, qi, the account, everything), but what
about their textures? I personally think that if someone is stupid enough to
do something to get permabanned then their textures should also be reclaimed
from then as well. Now I'm not saying sink art for good, but what we can do
is have public auctions for the textures to keep them circulating through the
community and out of the hands of the scammers/riggers that got banned
in the first place, the textures could also be donated to the Event Squad for
events they are hosting, either way its fine as long and the textures stay in
circulation.

There is nothing worth then a scammer getting on an alt after being banned
and trying to sell expensive texture sets, he's already been marked as an
untrustworthy player by his main being Permabanned, so why players have
to buy art from an shady alt of a shady player. You can say "well just don't
buy it" but at the same time look at the current art community. We don't
have a thriving one like the old days and good sets are becoming more and
more rare, we can't afford to just sink art.

Now flames would be understandable but textures is a different story users keepbtge textures they own even if they are banned you can't really keep track of art or have Staff repo it as they see fit and since bos isn't a thing who is to say they won't come back
10:22 AM <cocacobra> honestly tll was cool at first
10:22 AM <cocacobra> but now everyones kinda cunty
Art should be kept with the owner even though they're banned.
Even though this is implemented in some way, scammers can and will lie about not owning the texture.
Keeping an eye out for a texture is somewhat hard to do that's why there is a Texture Identification thread.

You can't just take art from people freely unless they donate it or let it go as a free texture instead. Taking art from scammers and putting them in public auctions doesn't seem right.
The only way I see this being at all fair is if BOS was re implemented and this was applied to those members. Even then...

Staff: Yo give us your textures man, you're rip anyway so it'd be best to put them back into circulation
BOS User: Nah
Staff: Oh alright, sorry didn't mean to bother you


There's not really any way to force them to give up their textures :/
Okay so I see two points of opposition here that I want to address.
1. The textures aren't items in game and are fairly owned by the player even if they're banned.
2. Bans can be lifted sometimes and the player can come back and use the textures.


Lets start with the first point, while it is true that textures exist as art created
outside of toribash if you go with that point it would make sense for textures
to be owned even after a perma ban since they would be the property of that
player. Thought there is a factor you're forgetting here because you're thinking
of toribash as only a game and not realizing its also a business. The texture
was sold by advertising through Toribash's official website and by doing so the
texture is linked to toribash as an aspect linked directly to it. Therefore the
texture is now on the same level as an item sold through the game. If someone
creates a texture and markets it outside of Toribash though then this would
not be the case, but once marketed through Toribash its considered part of
Toribash and should be treated as such.

Now lets talk about point 2, matters like this have a simple resolution. If an
account is permabanned and the ban appeal makes no progress over lets say
3 months then the staff can officially consider the player's assets forfeit and
proceed accordingly. Stripping textures for custom folder and redistributing
them or contacting the Artist of the textures and asking for the files if still
providable. Now I know sometimes the staff just won't be able to get the
textures, but this way at least some of them can be saved and redistributed.
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This is a bad idea what if they get unbanned and all there textures are gone and they did not get unbanned in the 3 month window of time.This idea sounds good but is not that good in reality.
Last edited by Odinie; Apr 11, 2016 at 12:58 AM.