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Old Jan 11, 2017   #11
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I predict many buttmad cucks. Like the mod that's going to infract me for this :^)

I look forward to not being taxed into oblivion any longer. Hopefully that tax money will be spent better than how it's spent currently, efficiency is important.
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Old Jan 12, 2017   #12
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well from what I've read so far, people think he will be good because of being a successful businessman (not completely true), but the reality of it is that he has made very bad choices throughout his life, he lost over $950 million dollars in a single divorce in 1999, and has gone bankrupt multiple times. The fact that the USA is already very much in-debt, and that he will be leading the nation on top of that, makes me a tad bit nervous. He promises some good things though, including some mental illness programs.

He plans on allowing legalization of Marijuana in all states if they choose to do so, and the government could tax the sales, and we could easily be out of debt within the next two decades.

There are some bad things though. He plans on posting troops in the East and Southern China seas. We've already lost so many good human beings in the vietnam and iraq wars; my grandfather told me stories of when he served, in vietnam, and just from those stories I now it was hell. We don't need that to happen, and if we start making other powerful countries feel like they need to do something to protect themselves, chaos will ensue.
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Old Jan 13, 2017   #13
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He plans on allowing legalization of Marijuana in all states if they choose to do so, and the government could tax the sales, and we could easily be out of debt within the next two decades.

On this point, countries should be in debt. If a country is not in debt it has more money it could be spending on its infrastructure/healthcare/education etc. (In addition taxation on marijuana alone wouldnt get the USA out of debt, although I dont know Trump's entire economic plan, I cant imagine taxing marijuana would have any noticeable effect).

A large part of the reason China became an economic superpower is that the government spent vast quantities of money to improve the infrastructure, particularly the country's rail network. Creating lots of jobs and improving China's ability to make things and to conduct business, both within itself and with other nations.


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Old Jan 13, 2017   #14
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Agreed, Trump doesnt seem to know what hes doing when it comes to the economy. Hes used to loading up businesses with debt while collected paychecks then filling bankruptcy while running out the backdoor (which he then will use to claim fradulent tax deductions, like many accuss him of doing in the 90s). You cant pull stunts like that with a country - especially one that issues the world reserve currency - without crashing the world economy and throwing everyone into a huge recession. The fact that he even suggested he might renegotiate the debt, although he later retracted that statement, shows just how clueless he is.

Looking at the budget plan Republicans are planning to vote on, this ticking timebomb could become even more deadly.

I'm not optimistic.

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Old Jan 13, 2017   #15
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Originally Posted by Pouffy View Post
I'm not optimistic.

yeah, mike pence + donald trump + mitt romney can do that to you
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Old Jan 16, 2017   #16
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better than hillary.
recently said he's going to give the UK a free trade deal after brexit, and that's okay in my book.
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Old Jan 19, 2017   #17
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Originally Posted by Mallymkun View Post
better than hillary.
recently said he's going to give the UK a free trade deal after brexit, and that's okay in my book.
buttmad cucks will be buttmad cucks.

Even if he is, by the end of the day Trump won't handle the business. He already stated that it is much more work than what he thought.
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Donald Trump's values may actually seem mutual to himself, but due to a fascist, republican viewpoint. This means that instead of attempting to reach a common goal with the American people, he is indulging in a thing called instant gratification. In example, Trump is going to bring back high paying jobs that billionaires can control. I am almost positive he will at least attempt to do this. The reason that isn't a good idea is because the only ways he can do that are by removing technologies, by opening factories, and by removing environmental policies. The same frequency of downsides can be analyzed throughout many of his claims. In his inauguration he stated about the advancement of technology and space... ...how does he plan on getting to space after he's done setting the US back to 1960 to replenish those old American values? (Make America great again) Resources, time, and fictitious currency will be spent building things like roads and buildings.

From what I can logically put together, Trump is full of it, not a fascist idiot (no offense). His reputation at being a con-artist is almost in the bag as it is. I am not convinced in his ability to be successful and contradictory at the same time. I might be wrong, but I doubt Trump is giving it his all for the people and I highly doubt he means well.

@fallu only countries that use our broken economic system should be in debt lol. Capitalism its self is failing/failed.

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Originally Posted by Link View Post
Donald Trump's values may actually seem mutual to himself, but due to a fascist, republican viewpoint. This means that instead of attempting to reach a common goal with the American people, he is indulging in a thing called instant gratification. In example, Trump is going to bring back high paying jobs that billionaires can control. I am almost positive he will at least attempt to do this. The reason that isn't a good idea is because the only ways he can do that are by removing technologies, by opening factories, and by removing environmental policies. The same frequency of downsides can be analyzed throughout many of his claims. In his inauguration he stated about the advancement of technology and space... ...how does he plan on getting to space after he's done setting the US back to 1960 to replenish those old American values? (Make America great again) Resources, time, and fictitious currency will be spent building things like roads and buildings.

From what I can logically put together, Trump is full of it, not a fascist idiot (no offense). His reputation at being a con-artist is almost in the bag as it is. I am not convinced in his ability to be successful and contradictory at the same time. I might be wrong, but I doubt Trump is giving it his all for the people and I highly doubt he means well.

@fallu only countries that use our broken economic system should be in debt lol. Capitalism its self is failing/failed.

All countries are in debt because debt not inherently a bad thing. As long as the rate of growth is greater than the rise of debt, a country is considered to be in a great economic shape. The greater the GDP of the country, the greater the debt it can afford. Coincidentally, the lowest debt the USA has ever had was under Andrew Jackson.

Provided the debt is sustainable, it is a good thing.

Currently no country in the world has a laissez-faire capitalist system. Communism/Socialism is awful, take it from someone who grew up in a communist country.

The rest of what you said is incoherent babble to me, can you please clarify what you are saying?
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If the rise of growth is greater than the rise of debt the country could and should be spending more money on education/infrastrucutre/healthcare/business etc or the opportunity cost of not doing it is likely to amount to more than the money spent


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