If you don't understand something you shouldn't speak on it. Yes everyone has free will and don't have to conform to the hood mentality, but you have to understand that this is something that everyone in the hood is born into. So before you make the assumption that everyone in that situation is complacent being there remember that it's all that they know, having come from that situation myself I can tell you that there's not many ways to make it out. Many of them honestly start with noble intentions taking up arms to protect their loved ones or dealing as means to provide since those areas have no jobs better than fast food joints most times. So between the crimes, influences, and poverty there's not exactly a lot of morals and values shining through to keep them on the straight and narrow.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
Yeah lol they want to get out of the hood so much that they join gangs and become drug dealers.
Please explain that one to me mate. How exactly does acting like a walking-talking stereotype help you get out of the hood
How easy do you think it is to go from criminality to innocence? Do you think that any institution (company/college) is particularly inclined to invest in a proven delinquent? Most corporations simply refuse to hire people with criminal history, besides where equality laws prevail. Even minor offenses, which are typically what small timers start with, can be the start of the spiral. It's not easy to avoid if it's part of your local culture, which is a very real possibility in the States. It also has to do with the mentality and skills you develop. A vagrant mentality does not translate easily or swiftly into standard society.
It's pretty silly to assert that people caught in a criminal culture can just "stop". Even if it were that simple, it's certainly not an easy task.
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Originally Posted by Thorn
How easy do you think it is to go from criminality to innocence?
Yeah so easy man you just join a gang and become a drug dealer.
Wait no, that doesn't sound right, but I can see how people could easily become confused lol.
Originally Posted by Thorn
Do you think that any institution (company/college) is particularly inclined to invest in a proven delinquent? Most corporations simply refuse to hire people with criminal history, besides where equality laws prevail. Even minor offenses, which are typically what small timers start with, can be the start of the spiral. It's not easy to avoid if it's part of your local culture, which is a very real possibility in the States. It also has to do with the mentality and skills you develop. A vagrant mentality does not translate easily or swiftly into standard society.
Well, I don't see why businesses should be required to consider hiring criminals, but that's an argument for another time.
But apart from that, maybe they need to fix their culture. Simple as that, anything else is a bandaid fix.
Originally Posted by Thorn
It's pretty silly to assert that people caught in a criminal culture can just "stop". Even if it were that simple, it's certainly not an easy task.
Maybe don't do it in the first place then.
I don't think society owes criminals anything, and I don't think society should give people a free pass just because "muh culture". If you assault people, deal drugs, steal, think it's ok to kill cops, etc, then clearly our moral compasses are irreconcilably misaligned.
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Originally Posted by ImmortalPig
But apart from that, maybe they need to fix their culture. Simple as that, anything else is a bandaid fix.
So now what your saying is that it's as easy as simply fixing their culture. Thats not possible, they can't just create money out of thin air and use it to help get them into better situations. When your living situation is awful and the people are as well, and the main reason for it is lack of money you can't just "fix" it. They have no means of earning the money required to "fix" their culture.
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I agree with ImmortalPig. Fixing the culture is the way to go.
I personally think we should create some sort of club for all children so they can get educated.
That way we can make sure their innocent minds don't get corrupted by the dangerous and thuggish ideals of their criminal parents.
It is simple solution to fix whole cultures within a few generations. It's been done rather successfully in the past. Why not do it again?
I personally think we should create some sort of club for all children so they can get educated.
That way we can make sure their innocent minds don't get corrupted by the dangerous and thuggish ideals of their criminal parents.
It is simple solution to fix whole cultures within a few generations. It's been done rather successfully in the past. Why not do it again?
