Originally Posted by Boredpayne

Agreed. We can't let those slags and darkies "siphon" away good American votes from the truly qualified white male candidates.

Not that arguing in favor of "the most qualified" in a post advocating Trump over Clinton isn't already hilarious, but wow, this is an impressively awful opinion!

Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

Are you, even for a second, suggesting that it's impossible to be racist against white people? That's at least what you're implying.
What's wrong with wanting to make sure candidates are being voted for on the merits of their character, efficacy, and qualifications rather than the color of their skin or their sexual organs? Isn't that pretty much the paraphrasing of Dr. MLK Jr's most famous and overly quoted speech?

you seemed to not only cherry pick the one point you felt you could comfortable take offense to, but did so while adding little to no substance to the discussion at all.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

And I mean, that's a really good point! I am so sick of this woman telling me to vote for her because of her womanhood. That's her message right? I haven't actually looked at her platform, but I'm pretty sure that's the central idea. And even if it isn't I'm going to plant my flag on this rhetorical hill because I really want to talk about how minorities are doing something wrong.

Originally Posted by Ele

Wow that is some thickly spread sarcasm. I'd say it's nearly too much sarcasm.

Do you disagree that some people will vote for her solely because she's a woman? Do you disagree that Clinton realises this, and she realises it makes sense to play the gender card to a degree?

Is it her central campaign narrative? No, and nobody suggested this. Does it factor in to some extent? Yeah, of course it does. Is this type of identity politics that we should be supporting or condemning? Well, we probably shouldn't support it, we should probably support more merit-based judgements.

That's all Bod was saying. I get your that actual beef with him is that he considers Trump more meritorious than Clinton. You should argue that point instead of this one.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

no i'm really glad this is where we put the focus: on the dumb women voting with their ovaries because clinton told them to (men don't do that because they're not dumb xd). And even though she didn't tell them to, just by daring (uppity!) to acknowledge that she is not a sexless colorless amorphous blob of nominee-flesh she is similarly guilty of playing the dreaded "gender card," an enormously powerful political weapon that has helped women not win the presidency for hundreds of years.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

no i'm really glad this is where we put the focus: on the dumb women voting with their ovaries because clinton told them to (men don't do that because they're not dumb xd). And even though she didn't tell them to, just by daring (uppity!) to acknowledge that she is not a sexless colorless amorphous blob of nominee-flesh she is similarly guilty of playing the dreaded "gender card," an enormously powerful political weapon that has helped women not win the presidency for hundreds of years.

Originally Posted by Hyde

If you can't trust her with responsibly emailing people stuff, how can you trust her with the role of commander in chief?

Originally Posted by Virus

#DNCLeaks.
How bad do you all think it really hurts Clinton with Bernie supporters?

Originally Posted by pouffywall

I can't quite say for sure whether it'll significantly impact how Bernie supporters will vote come November.

I'm sure it'll push some of them away from Clinton because of her 'role' in all this, but where those voters go is yet to be seen, or what faction of Bernie supporters they'll come from. I can't imagine that there won't be polls conducted soon that will shed more light on the situation, but it's hard right now to really say much about who this will effect and how.

The one thing I can say for certain is that its bad for Clinton.


Although, it'll be interesting to see how the democratic party handles this. DWS has already issued a statement that she'll be resigning after the DNC, so I imagine that DWS will become the scapegoat of the entire thing and the media narrative will likely pass over Clinton, but it should be interesting to see if she or Bernie make any statements about it at the convention, and whether this will effect Bernie's support of Clinton.


EDIT: This is only round one of Hillary leaks, isn't it?