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Originally Posted by Ele View Post
I think you've used the wrong examples to prove your hypothesis. In your taxation example, you're highlighting the process of moral relativity, not utilitarianism.

You're right, I should have mentioned consequentialism, which is what utilitarianism falls under - the idea that "the end justifies the means", which is what I'm really focused on. Utilitarianism goes further and suggests that the consequence defines the morality of the action. For the sake of discussion, I'll just say that I'm really drawn to deontological ethics and moral absolutism.

Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Not paying your taxes is an inherently selfish thing to do. It benefits only yourself. Paying your taxes benefits society. There's much more total utility in paying your taxes than there is in not paying your taxes.

Yes, that's textbook utilitarianism and what I was looking for. You believe that the maximisation of utility justifies pointing a gun at someone and demanding their help - "or else". What I'm interested in is the idea that if there were no alternatives to taxation, then would taxation be moral? But first, we need to make it clear whether or not you believe that taking someone's money (without their consent) is a moral thing to do, then we can carry on with this conversation. I'm expecting you to say that it isn't, but it's justified by the maximisation of utility, making it, overall, a moral thing. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong though.

Originally Posted by Ele View Post
In this example, it depends on how much one values the sentience of rabbits (we don't know what their sentience is actually worth, so we have to make a value judgement). Utilitarianism states that we ought to be maximising the utility of all sentient beings, so the question really is 'just how sentient are rabbits'. Consciousness is a spectrum, with humans (as far as we know) on the top, and things like plants at bottom - Where do rabbits place in that scale and how does that rank against the life of a fully conscious human? We currently don't have the science to figure this out.

That's the thing, one has to assert that we all value rabbits at around the same level. In order to do that, we would have to take Schopenhauer's belief that compassion is the basis of morality and apply it to the hypothesis. When we do that, we end up with a creature we value, higher than plant life, bugs and insects, but lower than humans. Therefore, does the intent (survival) justify the killing of the rabbit. It's an immoral thing to do, but if we take your point of our friends and family being affected by our death, then we're maximising utility by eating the rabbit.

Originally Posted by Ele View Post
I'd come down on the side of the argument that says it's ethically okay under utilitarianism to eat some rabbits on a stranded island to survive.

I would say it's unethical on the basis of the action.