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Alternative ways of control
I'd like to see another way to control joints, not because it'd be more comfortable to play with, but because it can often be a nightmare to click some of them. When the two players grab each other is not the worst, however. The worst is that the game doesn't seem to register collisions between different parts of our own body very well, and they overlap each other.
This is a nice example:
Err... don't even ask how that happened.
Another problem is that controlling the camera vertically could be easier. The only way to change the vertical angle as far as I know is to hold shift and use the arrows keys. It would be way nicer to control such angle by pressing the mouse wheel.
Anyways, the thing is that we need either to improve both collision and camera control, or give an alternate way to control the character. A small lateral representation of the character in a normal position that you can click would be a good option, for example. But please give us a way to control our characters efficiently.
This is a nice example:
Err... don't even ask how that happened.
Another problem is that controlling the camera vertically could be easier. The only way to change the vertical angle as far as I know is to hold shift and use the arrows keys. It would be way nicer to control such angle by pressing the mouse wheel.
Anyways, the thing is that we need either to improve both collision and camera control, or give an alternate way to control the character. A small lateral representation of the character in a normal position that you can click would be a good option, for example. But please give us a way to control our characters efficiently.
Clicking with the mouse is the slow inefficient way of playing, use the keyboard & only use the mouse for moving over joints & swinging the camera.
If you use ZXC for joint control then you've got the shift key right next to you, you can either hold the right mouse button to swing the camera (holding shift + right mouse will allows for raising/lowering) or use WASD to move it.
TBH I have no idea why the tutorial was changed to mouse control instead of keyboard, just creates bad habits.
So yeah, ditch the slow ass mouse play & use keyboard for doing most it. Hell you wouldn't play a RTS using only the mouse... Well you wouldn't if you didn't want to suck. ;)
If you use ZXC for joint control then you've got the shift key right next to you, you can either hold the right mouse button to swing the camera (holding shift + right mouse will allows for raising/lowering) or use WASD to move it.
TBH I have no idea why the tutorial was changed to mouse control instead of keyboard, just creates bad habits.
So yeah, ditch the slow ass mouse play & use keyboard for doing most it. Hell you wouldn't play a RTS using only the mouse... Well you wouldn't if you didn't want to suck. ;)
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From a yet to be relased fl0w document let me quote myself:
"What I would like to see is a simple modification/addition, where we have a "doll"/Tori standing in the starting position, which we could alter the joint states on directly, on which we could alter the hands without having to rotate 180* around the fight or perhaps dig in from beneath with the free-cam to be able to alter that glute which is covered from almost every angle."
That could be done through a script thou...
"What I would like to see is a simple modification/addition, where we have a "doll"/Tori standing in the starting position, which we could alter the joint states on directly, on which we could alter the hands without having to rotate 180* around the fight or perhaps dig in from beneath with the free-cam to be able to alter that glute which is covered from almost every angle."
That could be done through a script thou...
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Hands can be awkward depending on position, pressing L on the wrist is usually the easiest option although the key is a bit of a reach without moving your whole hand.
Maybe something that allows you to move the camera 90А at the press of a key to speed it up a tad.
Maybe something that allows you to move the camera 90А at the press of a key to speed it up a tad.
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Originally Posted by SkulFuk
Clicking with the mouse is the slow inefficient way of playing, use the keyboard & only use the mouse for moving over joints & swinging the camera.
If you use ZXC for joint control then you've got the shift key right next to you, you can either hold the right mouse button to swing the camera (holding shift + right mouse will allows for raising/lowering) or use WASD to move it.
TBH I have no idea why the tutorial was changed to mouse control instead of keyboard, just creates bad habits.
So yeah, ditch the slow ass mouse play & use keyboard for doing most it. Hell you wouldn't play a RTS using only the mouse... Well you wouldn't if you didn't want to suck. ;)
The default mouse may be inefficient, having to cycle through 4 states. But the game settings allow you to make it so that left clicking toggles between hold/relax, and mouse wheel toggles between contract/extend. Which is the same than the X and Z do, but without requiring both hands.
But anyways, even if we use the keyboard to manage the states, the problem remains exactly the same: getting the mouse over the joint you want.
