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Originally Posted by MintCat View Post
then what is free speech?


Free speech has to do with someone dissing someone or something else for no reason?
Yes. It's the ability to say whatever you want without punishment. Did you have a point you wanted to make?
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Yes. It's the ability to say whatever you want without punishment. Did you have a point you wanted to make?

Just wanted to make something clear I guess.
That is not completely true you can say anything you want except there are some restrictions. Things like slander and child pornography are banned and things like advertising and copyrights are restricted.
Spoken child pornography?

The ban will never get through parliament. If the petition gets to a certain size then it has to be debated and I can see that happening, but we are not going to risk our relationship with the USA because we don't like the leader, especially when this isn't going to cost Trump anything. If he does actually become president then I can imagine other countries getting involved with sanctions that actually make a difference, but it would be childish and ineffective to just ban Trump from the UK.
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Why are we discussing for the Donald Trump " Stuff ". that's not our problem :3
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Originally Posted by Zelda View Post

The ban will never get through parliament. If the petition gets to a certain size then it has to be debated and I can see that happening, but we are not going to risk our relationship with the USA because we don't like the leader, especially when this isn't going to cost Trump anything. If he does actually become president then I can imagine other countries getting involved with sanctions that actually make a difference, but it would be childish and ineffective to just ban Trump from the UK.

Well, one would think so, Zelda.
The quote goes on about how "We reject any attempts to create division and marginalisation", and one could only think that they're referring to the Muslim comment, which got way out of hand and taken out of context.
Nevertheless, despite the hundreds of thousands of people who are so "oh! i disagree with you, so i don't think you should be allowed an opinion! yadda yadda yadda", the government really has no valid reason for banning him.
You'd think our main focus would be to actually control immigration, rather than put all our focus into one guy who's ironically trying to do just that, but that's just my opinion.

Originally Posted by QueenArrum View Post
Why are we discussing for the Donald Trump " Stuff ". that's not our problem :3

How is it not?
Originally Posted by Ele View Post
Yes. It's the ability to say whatever you want without punishment. Did you have a point you wanted to make?

Free speech is the right to speak your mind without the government prosecuting you. That doesn't mean people will not persecute you for being a fuckin turkey you know what I mean? Nothing is without consequences or punishment.
Yes, just as you are free to say that Hitler was right, other people are free to ridicule you. Freedom of speech means you can say whatever you want and, as an extension of that, you're free to destroy your reputation. I think we all realise that. As the UK enshrines this freedom of speech they're not about to stop Trump from entering their country (even if 500k slacktivists sign a petition).