Originally Posted by Donseluke
As for the whole two party system here in America, Its actually not a two party system but people thinking it is, due to ignorance and the fact that the media only cares to cover the two parties and not any of the other ones really in my observations is all behind the whole thought process of that notion.
That's the definition of a two party system. It's not that there are only two parties, it's that there are two major parties of power. There's still a Socialist party and Communist party in America, but there's virtually no shot in hell they'll ever get voted in, so nobody focuses on them. The closest that anybody has ever had to upsetting the major parties in a presidential election was Ron Paul when he ran as an Independent. And he could of been classified as a Republican, except there can only be one Republican candidate on the presidential ticket the way it's set up, and the Republican party chose a different candidate.
The existence of other parties means nothing to the entire system if they don't have any power. Under the definition that the existence of other parties makes a political system a multi-party system, there is no such thing as a dictatorship. Every dictatorship has opposing parties to the ruling party, they just hold no political power.
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Originally Posted by Oracle
That's the definition of a two party system. It's not that there are only two parties, it's that there are two major parties of power. There's still a Socialist party and Communist party in America, but there's virtually no shot in hell they'll ever get voted in, so nobody focuses on them. The closest that anybody has ever had to upsetting the major parties in a presidential election was Ron Paul when he ran as an Independent. And he could of been classified as a Republican, except there can only be one Republican candidate on the presidential ticket the way it's set up, and the Republican party chose a different candidate.
The existence of other parties means nothing to the entire system if they don't have any power. Under the definition that the existence of other parties makes a political system a multi-party system, there is no such thing as a dictatorship. Every dictatorship has opposing parties to the ruling party, they just hold no political power.
That certainly makes sense, Sorry for misunderstanding. I personally would have voted him because the fed being canned and money being backed by gold is definitely the most promising proposition i have yet to see another candidate propose and actually make sense on it. Sadly enough it didn't get much media attention. Better than money just being a glorified I.O.U.
Actually i did vote for him, but as long as we have this farce known as the electoral college in play the people will probably never have any real power beyond that without a total hostile encounter bringing true meaning to the "The tree of liberty must be baptized by the blood of patriots." quote.
But any more discussion of that and i will be given an honorary tin foil hat.
What really did it for me when it came to the current administration was the signing of the NDAA. Probably one of the most severe violations of the peoples constitutional rights and i find it shocking how few people actually know what it is and what it does.
I think its pretty much safe at this point to say we are more generally screwed than we were before. If we weren't already.
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The problem is that (mostly Republicans) doesn't want to shift ways with democrats. Each side is holding their ground instead of fixing this matter. Obama has done nothing wrong. Most blame to Republicans. (My opinion) Now, we can now have a default where we hit 17 trillion dollars in debt. If this happen, basically EVERYONE in the U.S is affected. Prices will probably go through the roof! Shit is gonna go down. (Sorry if this has nothing to do of the discussion)
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Originally Posted by PerfectBro
The problem is that (mostly Republicans) doesn't want to shift ways with democrats. Each side is holding their ground instead of fixing this matter. Obama has done nothing wrong. Most blame to Republicans. (My opinion) Now, we can now have a default where we hit 17 trillion dollars in debt. If this happen, basically EVERYONE in the U.S is affected. Prices will probably go through the roof! Shit is gonna go down. (Sorry if this has nothing to do of the discussion)
We like to forget that we elect these stubborn party members. Honestly, us choosing to blame one party over another in this matter is encouraging them to push harder and keep at more of a standstill. We seem to feel Party is more important than Policy. This is why our government is dominated by two extremely opposite and outlying parties.
This thread should be called "The US voters are idiots." We are the reasons that the parties lie to gain our votes, etc. Our blatant partisanship encourages stance alteration as well.
Only when our strong partisanship is dissuaded can our government stop acting like children and get down to the issues.
DAMN.
