Originally Posted by
Dalliance
If I raised my children to be vehemently anti-religious and taught them that practicising any religion would only cause them and all around them untold pain and distress (р la exactly how Richard Dawkins imparts his beliefs), would you also hate me and find my actions morally reprehensible?
Hate you? No. Morally reprehensible? Yes. I believe that children should have the option to choose whichever religion/lack thereof they wish, not be forced upon it at birth. I never said I hate the people in this video.
Originally Posted by
BenDover
you do realise this video is over an hour long? thats a ridiculous resource for one to watch. I watched 5 minutes and it still hadnt got to the main discussion point...
Yeah.. Sorry about that. That's why I said watch what you can. I realize not everyone has the time/interest to watch one and a half hours of this.
Originally Posted by
BenDover
anyway, ontopic:
Yeah, its a sad story. They think the ONLY route to peace is to evangalise through the bible and the word of God. I hope you dont base your oppinion of christians only on stuff like this.
I don't. I may seem it sometimes, but I'm not that judgemental and unreasonable.
Originally Posted by
BenDover
the majority of us believe to evangalise in the way we live our lives and through more established and accepted methods.
Im a born and bred Catholic, and alot of these new age, born again Christians make me cringe.
its like trollbait for athiests. evident by the creation of this thread =/ makes BenDover sad
It makes me cringe too. I used to hear people always talk about those "right wing Catholic hatemongers" (it's died down since I was younger) but.. I have quite a few Catholic friends. None of them are like that. It's only the extremist, often ultra-fundamentalists, and usually cult-like sects that breed hatred. Don't worry; this video hasn't made me think less of you, BenDover. :3 Or anyone else, minus the people who teach their kids they are going to hell for thinking dirty thoughts and doing things they can't help.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
I find it bothersome that you find other people celebrating their religion with children to be akin to a cult.
wouldn't you say this is a bit more extreme than just celebrating?
Originally Posted by
Gorman
Besides that, attacking people for sharing their religious views with children is a bit hypocritical considering you are posting it in a board with a mean age of 12.
I shared a video and my opinion, and some other people shared their opinion too. There's a difference between sharing a religious view ("Hey, maybe you should read this book on Christianity") and forcing it upon someone unable to know the difference. That's how I see it, anyway.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
I have no problem with your views, I have fought on your side in other threads, but don't think it is necessary for us to examine every time people practice their religion, and deem whether or not we find it to incur a "disgust at a moral level".
I have no problem with your views either. As a matter of fact, I like you as a person from the discussions we have had.
We tend to examine the extreme examples of anything, and in this case it's a religious.. way of life. Of course we're not going to find some article about a woman who raised her child happily and gave them the decisions and the child chose God and they lived happily ever after. Why? That article doesn't exist. That's why I chose this video, I guess. It's extreme. I just hope the other people who watch it realize it's just one group, and don't villianize the rest of Christianity because of it.
Originally Posted by
Gorman
So you don't like religion, that's fine, but why is the fact that kids are being religious is so much more disgusting to you?
I don't have a problem with religion. I disagree with it, but I accept people's choices to be or not be religious. These children are taken to a point past religious, though. It's the parents I express disgust towards. These children learn they have to repent and if they do anything wrong (they
are kids after all) they will go to hell and burn for eternity. During a sermon, for lack of a better word, the large woman incriminates these children for thinking "dirty thoughts," saying "bad words," and disobeying their parents. Kids do that, and with time they learn the lessons. It's unfair to rein down on a child as though they are an adult who knows the rules and has been living them for 20+ years. There's a reason we don't try children as adults in court.
