Could this very well be a virus? Some sort of mind altering nerve agent? Possible combination of drugs/mental illness? Batshit craziness? All answers are accepted, as long as you provide an explanation as to why you think that.
A video I recommend you watch:
My opinion on this:
No known mental illness makes you completely disregard getting shot, throwing the whole "He escaped from a mental hospital" bullshit out the window. He was not homeless, the victim was the homeless one.
The attacker, who we'll refer to as Person Z, has had no information regarding him released. The victim's entire face, nose and eyeballs were consumed. I have many friends who do drugs, even cocaine, crack, meth, and so forth. None of these would, by themselves, cause a human being to commit such an atrocity.
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I think it's irresponsible for the authorities to be speculating that it was drugs at this point. They may be correct but to just start throwing things out there with absolutely ZERO proof to base it on is wrong. First it was "cocaine psychosis" then it was "LSD" now it's "bath salts"....the only true FACT is that right now no one knows why this man did what he did. Until the official tox screen comes back (which can take weeks) they shouldn't be giving any reason for it. It's so easy to chock this up to drug use. What if it's something pathological...a virus or bacteria that affects the brain? Who knows? I find it funny that they were so tight lipped about the details when it happened, just stated it was a "fight", it was the witnesses that told what really happened, but when it comes to the reasons why they're willing to just start throwing things out there. Even with drug use, eating a man's face off is not typical behavior. That's exactly why this story has caught the attention of people and the media...if this was typical for drug users...of any drug....it would be happening all the time. I read an account from the man's uncle today that he had asked to borrow his gf's car that day and she was using it so he couldn't use it and that's why he had taken the bike....so he goes from guy asking to borrow his gf's car to growling cannibal? He had quite a record but only a couple charges of misdemeanor battery since the age of 16...most of the other charges were for selling pot. There's a heck of a difference between misdemeanor battery and eating a guy's face off and growling at a cop and being able to take multiple bullets before finally being put down. Something definitely happened to him and I would love to know what it was, but I don't think it's responsible at all for the authorities to just start throwing out theories. I want to know the truth with evidence to back it up, not just people's theories. The only reason they're saying bath salts now is because of suggestions by people in ER's that have seen an increase in patients using it that have been strong and combative. That happens with a lot of drugs and doesn't make them into cannibals. They say they've seen similar cases in the last few weeks....these "bath salts" have been around for quite awhile now and they're just now seeing people turned into cannibals from it? What would be really unnerving is if the tox screen comes up clean. Also, I find it funny that the second thing they came up with is LSD....LSD will not come up on a standard tox screen...the only way to test for it is by doing a spinal tap and testing the spinal fluid which generally is not done in autopsies....so it would be an easy excuse to say LSD if nothing else came up on the standard tox screen, or at least not enough of a substance (or a type of substance like pot that would not cause this) to explain that kind of behavior. If there ever were some type of "zombie" virus that affected the brain that started spreading, the scary thing is we'd never know about it until it was too late because the authorities and media would start throwing theories like this out there and by the time the truth came out no one would be paying attention or it would simply be too late or they'd cover it up so as not to cause a panic.
suo notes: You also probably didn't have to quote the post directly above yours.
What (words at the beginning of sentence, unless proper nouns, are capitalized. Proper nouns are capitalized as they normally would be) I (the 1st person pronoun I is always capitalized) believe is that it's more of a psychological (get a spellchecker) thing rather than (not sure what to say, but it's necessary) a virus. What makes people do these crazy things, I have no idea whatsoever (it's one word). (Put a space after a period and before the next sentence.) But I disagree with the "(use quotes for this, it makes more sense) I have many friends who do drugs, even cocaine, crack, meth, and so forth. None of these would, by themselves, cause a human being to commit". People do take drugs that can affect (damage is not necessarily the correct word) their thinking, their actions, etc. I (there also should not be a but in the front of this sentence) believe that that can cause someone to do something crazy, but I have (use have, it's a nice verb) never heard (a herd refers to a herd of animals) of something this disturbing. In my opinion(This isn't an opinion.) I'm stumped on what caused them to do that. I (and don't start sentences with "and") feel very sad for the person who had to witness this horrible event (and may they rest in heaven). I believe that the authorities should do some bio/ blood work to see what is in that person's system.
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There have been documented instances of people on PCP doing similar things, the case of Big Lurch eating his room mate's lung for example. It's far more likely to be something similar to that than a zombie virus.
There have been documented instances of people on PCP doing similar things, the case of Big Lurch eating his room mate's lung for example. It's far more likely to be something similar to that than a zombie virus.
yeah i also have been doing research of my own. i have found multiple cases were one person "eats" or "divulges" another person also known as canabalizm.
just the thought of one eating another freaks the heck out of me.
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He disregarded getting shot. Presumably 5 times before he died. There were 6 shots fired. How do you explain that?
As well as inducing psychosis, PCP is an analgesic. It is entirely feasible that a person could keep going even after being shot multiple times, assuming that nothing immediately vital was hit.
As well as inducing psychosis, PCP is an analgesic. It is entirely feasible that a person could keep going even after being shot multiple times, assuming that nothing immediately vital was hit.
Exactly what I was going to say, PCP seems like a logical explanation.
Or maybe I just hope it's a logical explanation.
As well as inducing psychosis, PCP is an analgesic. It is entirely feasible that a person could keep going even after being shot multiple times, assuming that nothing immediately vital was hit.
PCP really does not cause people to start devouring each other. All PCP really does is induce a certain degree of psychosis. I happened to have a psychotic friend, unmedicated, who did pcp. Didn't go around chomping at people's faces. I doubt the ONLY reason behind this is pcp(can't know for sure, till the toxicology report). Supposedly, there is a rumor going around claiming that this guy had rabies.
Rabies can cause hallucination, excitation, agitation and hyper salivation and once the onset of symptoms show death usually follows within days.
PCP really does not cause people to start devouring each other. All PCP really does is induce a certain degree of psychosis. I happened to have a psychotic friend, unmedicated, who did pcp. Didn't go around chomping at people's faces. I doubt the ONLY reason behind this is pcp(can't know for sure, till the toxicology report). Supposedly, there is a rumor going around claiming that this guy had rabies.
Rabies can cause hallucination, excitation, agitation and hyper salivation and once the onset of symptoms show death usually follows within days.
"Another more recent case involved a California man eating his 4-year-old son's eyeballs in 2009 while on PCP, leaving the child blind. (wiki cite)"
Except it can. Plus I was only PCP as an example. Chances are even if drugs were involved they'd only be part of the reason.
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