Originally Posted by slipknot
:/ I dont get it.
Here we meet the fun fun part that most christians stumble to :P they haven't read the fuckin' bible. Did you know he was a carpenter too? But never did any actual carpenting other than cheesy magic tricks and sleight of hand? All of the tricks he did are explainable by common logic and little knowledge of sleight of hand. ( my hobby is magician by the way, i specialize in sleight of hand) :P
Also, universe is expanding -and- rotating around it's gravitational center. That is because the size of the matter that makes up most of the universe (nothing) is na. n being number (a huge number. It is immeasurable for at least the next 2000 years or so. or at least until we find a way to reasonably jump to the ends of the universe.) and a is lightyears. We have limited ability to see what is out there. Universe's edges could not be expanding at all, and they could be rotating. Remember, the further we look, the earlier picture we get. If we look at mars on telescope, we get an image that holds true to approximately 12 hours or a day ago.
What what? In the butt.
Originally Posted by Foxie
Here we meet the fun fun part that most christians stumble to :P they haven't read the fuckin' bible. Did you know he was a carpenter too? But never did any actual carpenting other than cheesy magic tricks and sleight of hand? All of the tricks he did are explainable by common logic and little knowledge of sleight of hand. ( my hobby is magician by the way, i specialize in sleight of hand) :P
Also, universe is expanding -and- rotating around it's gravitational center. That is because the size of the matter that makes up most of the universe (nothing) is na. n being number (a huge number. It is immeasurable for at least the next 2000 years or so. or at least until we find a way to reasonably jump to the ends of the universe.) and a is lightyears. We have limited ability to see what is out there. Universe's edges could not be expanding at all, and they could be rotating. Remember, the further we look, the earlier picture we get. If we look at mars on telescope, we get an image that holds true to approximately 12 hours or a day ago.
All the "tricks" he did are explainable by common logic? So bring people back to life and healing them is explainable by common logic? And do you expect me to memerize everything in the bible? I knew he was jewish and a carpenter i just didnt get what was so funny.
Originally Posted by Juntalis
Our technology isn't absolute. Nor is our science. Nothing can be proven or disproven. Therefore, to say any religion or lack of religion is based on logic or facts is bullshit. It's simply a leap of faith, no more, no less. Saying that any other group is stupid for believing or not believing makes you look ignorant and stupid, as for the most part, you're doing the same thing.
I'm agreeing with almost everything 'cept this.
Things can be proven.
but things humans can't see, feel, etc. etc. can't be proven nor disprrven, that is all.
<+Lightningkid> ......
<+Lightningkid> wow
<+Lightningkid> I fail
<+Lightningkid> wow
<+Lightningkid> I fail
Our senses can't pick up IR or UV light you know. I know what you mean by saying things that our senses can't pick up, but you need to define it better.
Well, I have to agree with you on one thing. Religion or lack of it is a leap of faith.
http://www.christianpost.com/article...ristianity.htm
Here's a nice article.
And here's the most important thing in my opinion. IMO a christian who never doubts anything regarding christianity will have a hard time when something unexpected happens to them.
Well, I have to agree with you on one thing. Religion or lack of it is a leap of faith.
http://www.christianpost.com/article...ristianity.htm
Here's a nice article.
In fact, Keller embraces doubt as a means of arriving at faith and further challenges Christians to come to an understanding of their belief that is not based solely on blind faith.
And here's the most important thing in my opinion. IMO a christian who never doubts anything regarding christianity will have a hard time when something unexpected happens to them.
Last edited by Chronos; Mar 8, 2008 at 11:51 AM.
