Originally Posted by Manxie

But that's the thing ToXiKz, I've taken more a hit than anyone I know. The thing is, now that I take it and don't give it back I'm a hardened individual. I can take the punch again and again and again. So far as I know if I do absolutely need to give it back I can. Because of it they can't hurt me as much any more, this gives me the chance to walk away and laugh at them.

Fighting for entertainment such as wrestling, boxing and martial arts is understandable. Fighting over nothing or an unreasonable comment, no need for it. Don't feed it and it will stop.

Take terrorists for example. They destroy things for fun. (and Allah) but if America doesn't send masses of military forces towards them then they would get bored. They'd stick to bus bombings and petty explosions and won't go for larger targets.

Same concept with a bully. You don't provoke him/her then s/he'll get bored and move on.

(Terrorists is probably a bad example, change it to Napoleon. People got bored fighting his 'puny' ass.)

Originally Posted by ToXiKz

Well, I have noticed that they have been getting much, much more harsh on kids. Today, My adopted son was attacked at the bus stop by a quite large student and was stabbed like 2-3cm below the eye by the guys pen. In self defense, he did what he had to do and ended up breaking the large kids femur.

So, I was called in and was told as to what happened, the bus driver witnessed the whole thing btw. The principal expected me to agree with his decision and scold Aaron(my adopted kid), I disagreed with him and explained him that "if you get stabbed and blood is pouring out your face, you would too", in which he quickly agreed to. He stated that he would, and he himself would do much of a better job hurting them on account that it was so close to his eye, but said "Defending ones self has its own consequences".

I knew who he was, seeing as I went to this high school not so long ago(round 3 years), and he clearly had some manor of distaste for me.
When I went in and was discussing this between the large child's family and me and my wife, we both agreed to have mutual respect and find some alternative to suspension, no matter my great opposition for suspending Aaron anyway because he had really done nothing wrong.

I used some counter examples to say why defending his self was right and he should not be punished for protecting himself.

My counterexamples were: 9/11, The terrorists 'attacked' us(used '' for conspiracy believers) and we hit back twice as hard and pretty much have destroyed a country and a half in the process, we have yet to be penalized for protecting ourselves.

Their response to this was; sir, we aren't discussing countries here. We understand it is conceptually the same, but, this is our policy.

I declared them anti-american after they stated that, saying that they were calling our counter attack on terrorism wrong.

When I did this, the principal got really pissed and started saying that the school policy is such and it must be enforced, whether it is moral or not.

My 2nd example: Way back to world war 2, The jews who did not defend themselves or run away got crushed. If you expect people not to defend themselves, they will get crushed.

They said that the jews who were left got a country of their own, my response was that if it had continued, there would be none of them left, and continued to make my point about self defense being 'legal' in a school.

My son got suspended for 3 weeks and has a school court hearing to discuss this matter.

I am going to leave an appointment with the superintendent to see if he can pull some strings or something to change the policy/at least help in some way.


I think that schools now are going way overboard with their decisions and I refuse to believe that today's children are bad, or worse then us, yet they are getting countless days/weeks removed from their life/education because of the blasphemy that they are submitted to each day.

What are your opinions on children being suspended for large amounts of time for very little to no reason?

Originally Posted by Manxie

Take terrorists for example. They destroy things for fun. (and Allah) but if America doesn't send masses of military forces towards them then they would get bored. They'd stick to bus bombings and petty explosions and won't go for larger targets.

Same concept with a bully. You don't provoke him/her then s/he'll get bored and move on.

(Terrorists is probably a bad example, change it to Napoleon. People got bored fighting his 'puny' ass.)