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Mind if i butt in here?
Ok, to answer the very first post about time not existing, in short, it does.
If time is a concept that humans made up, it still exists as a progression of one moment to the next. If you think of it as a concept then that's where you have your debate.
However, time in itself if more than just a concept of linear progression of seconds, it's measurement which exists just as much as centimeters do, or degrees centigrade.
As a way of quantifying something.
e.g in chemistry you can have the amount of a substance (moles) reacting per second to find a comparable rate of reaction.
Without the time factor, you'd be pretty much unable to determine that. Or any "rates" really.
Well that as a question doesn't make much sense. It doesn't 'go' anywhere, it simply passes.
If you think of time as a linear progression, then you can argue it just stays there, and all the time that's passes has done just that, passed, but remained at it's point long the timeline.
So that, hypothetically speaking, if one were to "go back in time" to that point, it would be the same, and everything would exist as it is in that moment, like a frame in a movie.
BUT, we do see things slightly delayed, the amount of time it takes for the light to reach our eyes. However miniscule that value may be, we do technically look at the past.
A more extreme example of this would be stars millions of kilometers away.
The time it takes for the light to travel to us means we're seeing the star as it was thousands of years ago, it's the same effect just teeny-tiny.
While that doesn't exactly answer any kind of question, it does debatably waver that point from the argument, showing time does not simply "vanish" once passed. I guess it depends upon which theories you subscribe to.
So yeah, not sure what else I can say on the matter.
To sum up, I'm essentially saying that time is a qualitative value giving to the pass of... well... time, in such a way that it has to exist just as any other measurement does.
EDIT: Also hey David \o/
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Originally Posted by Nickone
Considering the fact that humans made up the concept of time, basing it off of our own planet, would it be justifiable to say that time did not exist
Ok, to answer the very first post about time not existing, in short, it does.
If time is a concept that humans made up, it still exists as a progression of one moment to the next. If you think of it as a concept then that's where you have your debate.
However, time in itself if more than just a concept of linear progression of seconds, it's measurement which exists just as much as centimeters do, or degrees centigrade.
As a way of quantifying something.
e.g in chemistry you can have the amount of a substance (moles) reacting per second to find a comparable rate of reaction.
Without the time factor, you'd be pretty much unable to determine that. Or any "rates" really.
Originally Posted by Nickone
Where does every second that passes go?
Well that as a question doesn't make much sense. It doesn't 'go' anywhere, it simply passes.
If you think of time as a linear progression, then you can argue it just stays there, and all the time that's passes has done just that, passed, but remained at it's point long the timeline.
So that, hypothetically speaking, if one were to "go back in time" to that point, it would be the same, and everything would exist as it is in that moment, like a frame in a movie.
BUT, we do see things slightly delayed, the amount of time it takes for the light to reach our eyes. However miniscule that value may be, we do technically look at the past.
A more extreme example of this would be stars millions of kilometers away.
The time it takes for the light to travel to us means we're seeing the star as it was thousands of years ago, it's the same effect just teeny-tiny.
While that doesn't exactly answer any kind of question, it does debatably waver that point from the argument, showing time does not simply "vanish" once passed. I guess it depends upon which theories you subscribe to.
So yeah, not sure what else I can say on the matter.
To sum up, I'm essentially saying that time is a qualitative value giving to the pass of... well... time, in such a way that it has to exist just as any other measurement does.
EDIT: Also hey David \o/
Last edited by Erth; Oct 26, 2012 at 10:17 PM.
She/They
Yeah, I only don't like erthtkv2 because of the mod's name. Make it "tkv2," and the mod will instantly become more popular. This is a valid reason as the name of the mod is still an important feature that no one seems to have yet discussed.
Yeah, I only don't like erthtkv2 because of the mod's name. Make it "tkv2," and the mod will instantly become more popular. This is a valid reason as the name of the mod is still an important feature that no one seems to have yet discussed.
