Originally Posted by Banned
I will continue to fat shame people.
Shows what kind of person you are.
Originally Posted by Banned
All you have done is made excuses to why they can't lose weight, I'd say not a single one of your arguments is valid.
I have no valid arguments? Let's make a list of my arguments and yours
You: people can live on oatmeal and lettuce alone
Me: oatmeal contains a below average amount of nutrients, lettuce is water
You: *silence*
You: "Its funny everything you say has a simple solution. "
Me: (waiting for them)
You: *silence*
You: i wasn't responding to your post.
Me: but you quoted me?
You: McDonalds is more expensive than WalMart healthy foods
Me: you didn't calculate in all the extra fuss such as gas and cooking that comes with it. You pay 99 cents for a meal ready to eat at McDonalds.
You: *silence*
You: diets aren't expensive, anyone can follow them
Me: give me proof
You: *silence*
You: blabbering about metabolism
Me: What are you talking about? <explanation about what cell respiration is (base of metabolism)>
You: *silence*
You: you never counterargue, none of your arguments are valid
Me: -> see above
Verdict: you have made 0 sense in this thread and have failed to comprehend basic logic I have used. When I debunked one of your silly theories (e.g. the one about McDonalds being more expensive than healthy, homemade food), you went completely silent. I think it's good that you're giving up now. Apparently there's a limit to how much unfunded muttering someone can spew out before they give up and quit.
f=m*a syens
Already commented on the lettuce and oatmeal. Every time you posted an excuse I posted something to do to fix said problem. If you would like to make you a budget for around $50 including gas/electricity I guess I could do that I believe I offered too. I'm sure I can post a pretty elementary diet that would be beneficial to most over weight people for a decent price. I guess if you make under 15k a year just be fat though. Calling a .99 burger from mcD's a meal. Jokes. Implying you would eat only 1 burger from McDonald's. jokes. It's a fact diet and exercise will help overweight people lose weight. You may have a better grasp on the scientific side of metabolism, grats. But your argument has jumped from excuse to excuse. I'm on my iPad but if you want I'll pull them up when I'm at my pc.
Originally Posted by Banned
Already commented on the lettuce and oatmeal. Every time you posted an excuse I posted something to do to fix said problem. If you would like to make you a budget for around $50 including gas/electricity I guess I could do that I believe I offered too. I'm sure I can post a pretty elementary diet that would be beneficial to most over weight people for a decent price. I guess if you make under 15k a year just be fat though. Calling a .99 burger from mcD's a meal. Jokes. Implying you would eat only 1 burger from McDonald's. jokes. It's a fact diet and exercise will help overweight people lose weight. You may have a better grasp on the scientific side of metabolism, grats. But your argument has jumped from excuse to excuse. I'm on my iPad but if you want I'll pull them up when I'm at my pc.
Also, I never implied you took only one burger. Say you ate 10 of them per day. That's ~80 dollars per week if you drink some nice soda with it too. You save money on gas, electricity, a fridge and most of all time. Try and eat a balanced diet for 80 dollars per week, but count in the electricity for your fridge, your fridge, your furnace, your gas and the time you've lost.
Sure, why not go on your PC and pick them all. I'm waiting.
f=m*a syens
@Banned. We do learn, we have gym class and P.E, they keep them separate for some reason. P.E we spend 30-40 minutes learning about the body and how it works. We learn about diets and all that, the teachers don't stand for slackers either, they want you going like you never have been before.
If it's mental problems, poverty, medicine or a disorder, you shouldn't blame them.
-Start with your 1st argument a very wide scope of possible things that could keep your form losing weight easily. Most can be over come with proper diet and exercise, with more serious ones you may have to consult a nutritionist, your doctor, and/or a personal trainer to help you. Other ones you just have to stop being such a bitch about it.
Second point eating cheap mcD's is faster, easier, and more cost effective.
-I'll get to this. But lets remember there is no direct correlation between time and money. If you're making anywhere near minimum wage lets assume your time is not worth much.
3rd point minimum wage +2dollars/hour can't afford healthy food. They will have to sacrifice their social lives.
-A wide set of variables here. Living costs, what your social life consists of, bills you may or may not have to pay. The list just goes on and on.
4th, you explained Metabolism.
-Ok
5th Also, I never implied you took only one burger. Say you ate 10 of them per day. That's ~80 dollars per week if you drink some nice soda with it too. You save money on gas, electricity, a fridge and most of all time. Try and eat a balanced diet for 80 dollars per week, but count in the electricity for your fridge, your fridge, your furnace, your gas and the time you've lost.
Sure, why not go on your PC and pick them all. I'm waiting.
" You pay 99 cents for a meal ready to eat at McDonalds." <--- not implication confirmed. Save gas? Another wide variable, I guess if you live next door to a fast food place and are not within biking/walking distance of a supermarket you could save gas. Electricity for your fridge, uhm ok I guess you just have your fridge unplugged all the time? Get real. Splitting hairs on the money for electricity, I can't calculate how much money opening a fridge and having a light on in the kitchen for idk half an hour costs. Never mind I can. I can probably see how much cooking meals on a gas stove costs per year I'm sure that's on the net somewhere. Your time is next to worthless. Ok so even though this is the worst most specific situation which has no place in a debate I guess I'll give it a chance. Assuming I'm not within walking distance of a supermarket, that there is a fast food chain next door to you, that I have a fridge and the you do not own a fridge, that you do not use any electricity in the time it takes me to prepare a meal and that that I have my kitchen light on for 1 hour. Anything I'm missing? Want to make sure that light bulb isn't an energy saver bulb?
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Ok my light bulb in my kitchen will cost me $2.45 a year, based on the average cost of electricity per kilowatt in my state, using a pretty standard 60watt light bulb. ~.35 A week. We are down too $79.65
I came up with $3.15 a week to run my fridge. I'll post the sites I used to calculate this. So we are down to $76.50. I'd say the convenience of a fridge is defiantly not worth $163/year
"With this measure, the average block group in 2000 had a population density of 219,000 people per five mile radius." For arguments sake I'm going to assume you're one of the millions of people who live in a 5 mile radius of Walmart. The numbers are a bit dated, I'd assume more people live within 5 miles of Walmart now then ever before. If you want to argue this feel free to pull up your own statistics. Also I'm now to fat to just ride a bike 10 miles with some groceries.
Ok so $3.60 was the national average for the United States in 2012 according to AAA. Ok so the average MPG of a new car sold in 2008(Yeah I'm broke but mommy and daddy bought me a 2008 model car) was 20.9 MPG. So 10 miles there and back, at 20 mpg, I'm rounding because this is a lot of math wasted on hypothetical situations. I use half a gallon or $1.80 a trip. I'm not a retard so I make 1 trip a week. so we are now at $74.70.
Time to start shopping for a healthy diet that will help you lose weight for a, on $74.70 a week. Unless you have any other insane super specific constraints you would like me to factor in to this? I'm probably going to do this tomorrow due to it being late and I would rather go do something with the rest of my Saturday. Jaykay. I'm back because my gf wants to go to a meteor shower at 2am.
I almost missed the stove. We are going to make another wild assumption here. I know this isn't how I cook every meal every day but for simplicity I will just factor in that I use 3 burners at medium heat for an hour each day. 1 burner used for 1 hour per meal plus 20 minutes using the oven per meal per day. Yes this is overkill I highly doubt I use my stove that much for every meal, actually I know I don't but I'm just going to keep it simple. I'm going to save myself some more math and round the national average per therm cost to $1 if you want to do the math I actually believe it comes out to less then a dollar. So with this handy dandy calculator I find I would spend about $105 a year. $2.01 a week to run my stove. We now have $72.69. Well think of all the fat you could be with that $7 and some change.
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http://energy.gov/energysaver/articl...nic-energy-use
http://www.citytrf.net/costs_calculator.htm
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...-in-your-state
http://sticerd.lse.ac.uk/seminarpapers/ei07112005.pdf
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/31/news...ces/index.html
http://www.treehugger.com/cars/avera...s-238-mpg.html
http://www.bls.gov/ro5/aepchi.htm
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/cooking.html
-Start with your 1st argument a very wide scope of possible things that could keep your form losing weight easily. Most can be over come with proper diet and exercise, with more serious ones you may have to consult a nutritionist, your doctor, and/or a personal trainer to help you. Other ones you just have to stop being such a bitch about it.
Second point eating cheap mcD's is faster, easier, and more cost effective.
-I'll get to this. But lets remember there is no direct correlation between time and money. If you're making anywhere near minimum wage lets assume your time is not worth much.
3rd point minimum wage +2dollars/hour can't afford healthy food. They will have to sacrifice their social lives.
-A wide set of variables here. Living costs, what your social life consists of, bills you may or may not have to pay. The list just goes on and on.
4th, you explained Metabolism.
-Ok
5th Also, I never implied you took only one burger. Say you ate 10 of them per day. That's ~80 dollars per week if you drink some nice soda with it too. You save money on gas, electricity, a fridge and most of all time. Try and eat a balanced diet for 80 dollars per week, but count in the electricity for your fridge, your fridge, your furnace, your gas and the time you've lost.
Sure, why not go on your PC and pick them all. I'm waiting.
" You pay 99 cents for a meal ready to eat at McDonalds." <--- not implication confirmed. Save gas? Another wide variable, I guess if you live next door to a fast food place and are not within biking/walking distance of a supermarket you could save gas. Electricity for your fridge, uhm ok I guess you just have your fridge unplugged all the time? Get real. Splitting hairs on the money for electricity, I can't calculate how much money opening a fridge and having a light on in the kitchen for idk half an hour costs. Never mind I can. I can probably see how much cooking meals on a gas stove costs per year I'm sure that's on the net somewhere. Your time is next to worthless. Ok so even though this is the worst most specific situation which has no place in a debate I guess I'll give it a chance. Assuming I'm not within walking distance of a supermarket, that there is a fast food chain next door to you, that I have a fridge and the you do not own a fridge, that you do not use any electricity in the time it takes me to prepare a meal and that that I have my kitchen light on for 1 hour. Anything I'm missing? Want to make sure that light bulb isn't an energy saver bulb?
-----
Ok my light bulb in my kitchen will cost me $2.45 a year, based on the average cost of electricity per kilowatt in my state, using a pretty standard 60watt light bulb. ~.35 A week. We are down too $79.65
I came up with $3.15 a week to run my fridge. I'll post the sites I used to calculate this. So we are down to $76.50. I'd say the convenience of a fridge is defiantly not worth $163/year
"With this measure, the average block group in 2000 had a population density of 219,000 people per five mile radius." For arguments sake I'm going to assume you're one of the millions of people who live in a 5 mile radius of Walmart. The numbers are a bit dated, I'd assume more people live within 5 miles of Walmart now then ever before. If you want to argue this feel free to pull up your own statistics. Also I'm now to fat to just ride a bike 10 miles with some groceries.
Ok so $3.60 was the national average for the United States in 2012 according to AAA. Ok so the average MPG of a new car sold in 2008(Yeah I'm broke but mommy and daddy bought me a 2008 model car) was 20.9 MPG. So 10 miles there and back, at 20 mpg, I'm rounding because this is a lot of math wasted on hypothetical situations. I use half a gallon or $1.80 a trip. I'm not a retard so I make 1 trip a week. so we are now at $74.70.
Time to start shopping for a healthy diet that will help you lose weight for a, on $74.70 a week. Unless you have any other insane super specific constraints you would like me to factor in to this? I'm probably going to do this tomorrow due to it being late and I would rather go do something with the rest of my Saturday. Jaykay. I'm back because my gf wants to go to a meteor shower at 2am.
I almost missed the stove. We are going to make another wild assumption here. I know this isn't how I cook every meal every day but for simplicity I will just factor in that I use 3 burners at medium heat for an hour each day. 1 burner used for 1 hour per meal plus 20 minutes using the oven per meal per day. Yes this is overkill I highly doubt I use my stove that much for every meal, actually I know I don't but I'm just going to keep it simple. I'm going to save myself some more math and round the national average per therm cost to $1 if you want to do the math I actually believe it comes out to less then a dollar. So with this handy dandy calculator I find I would spend about $105 a year. $2.01 a week to run my stove. We now have $72.69. Well think of all the fat you could be with that $7 and some change.
-----
http://energy.gov/energysaver/articl...nic-energy-use
http://www.citytrf.net/costs_calculator.htm
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2011/...-in-your-state
http://sticerd.lse.ac.uk/seminarpapers/ei07112005.pdf
http://money.cnn.com/2012/12/31/news...ces/index.html
http://www.treehugger.com/cars/avera...s-238-mpg.html
http://www.bls.gov/ro5/aepchi.htm
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/cooking.html
Last edited by Banned; Aug 12, 2013 at 07:54 AM.
Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
