Originally Posted by deoxer
I understand punishing for bug exploits, but was it really necessary to sink all his TC, which took god knows how long to make, over a unknown bug which didnt really harm anyone.
If you are banned you are not supposed to send tc or items (regardless of the amount of tc or how long it took to get). Swaves used an exploit to do such a thing. Respectfully, you may have a misunderstanding of what has happened.
Last edited by wizard; Jun 14, 2022 at 05:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by wizard
If you are banned you are not supposed to send tc or items (regardless of the amount of tc or how long it took to get). Swaves used an exploit to do such a thing. Respectfully, you may have a misunderstanding of what has happened.
Is this an official response of the toribash staff or is this your personal opinion?
I'd just like to make sure
For clarification, I’ll elaborate a little further on my post:
I have noticed a few people here saying similar things to what Deoxer has posted. It seems to me that some may have a misunderstanding of how tc is handled for banned accounts. When accounts are banned, they are not (or rather: physically should be unable to) transfer tc and items. My post basically explains that since swaves seems to have exploited an overlooked function in order to transfer tc from banned accounts, the tc was subject to sinking. Exploits are not limited to bugs in code, and include using tools available (either internal or external) in order to bypass restrictions of a ban in this case.
This is my own interpretation as staff, but please do know that anyone is welcome to correct me or add to what I am explaining.
If you still have questions, feel free to reach out.
I have noticed a few people here saying similar things to what Deoxer has posted. It seems to me that some may have a misunderstanding of how tc is handled for banned accounts. When accounts are banned, they are not (or rather: physically should be unable to) transfer tc and items. My post basically explains that since swaves seems to have exploited an overlooked function in order to transfer tc from banned accounts, the tc was subject to sinking. Exploits are not limited to bugs in code, and include using tools available (either internal or external) in order to bypass restrictions of a ban in this case.
This is my own interpretation as staff, but please do know that anyone is welcome to correct me or add to what I am explaining.
If you still have questions, feel free to reach out.
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i would like to preface this by stating that swaves is 1 of my favorite people in this game, someone ive gotten really personal with, and someone who has been a good friend of mine for many years. that being said, i have no idea why he thought he could just casually get away with using an exploit to transfer 1000 dollars worth of tc from a banned account to his main. its still a cool record and all but man, i cant defend this. if anything this is like the one time where i feel like he actually deserved the ban. this whole situation is ridiculous and i cant even believe im getting to witness this.
felnin you being horrible at replaymaking doesnt make it less valid.
i'd argue having fun on a game you enjoy is a lot more valid than gambling and throwing all of your money away relentlessly.
you can't even begin to try and compare someone like flash with someone like diamond because they simply do different things, attempting to do so is stupid to say the least. i honestly have no idea where this kind of thought even comes from, ive never seen a dueler make an acceptable replay, so how can you act like duelers are just SUPERIOR? i know this isnt your main point but god was it fucking stupid, hard to not say anything about it.
Originally Posted by Felnin
We've completly twisted this game. People put value into useless stuff, like replay making and completly forget about competitive. Competitive players are the most active players this game will ever get. Competitive players are the most skilled players, that constantly pratice their skills in order to keep growing for ever.
felnin you being horrible at replaymaking doesnt make it less valid.
i'd argue having fun on a game you enjoy is a lot more valid than gambling and throwing all of your money away relentlessly.
you can't even begin to try and compare someone like flash with someone like diamond because they simply do different things, attempting to do so is stupid to say the least. i honestly have no idea where this kind of thought even comes from, ive never seen a dueler make an acceptable replay, so how can you act like duelers are just SUPERIOR? i know this isnt your main point but god was it fucking stupid, hard to not say anything about it.
Last edited by iris; Jun 14, 2022 at 06:50 PM.
Reason: clarification
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Originally Posted by wizard
If you are banned you are not supposed to send tc or items (regardless of the amount of tc or how long it took to get). Swaves used an exploit to do such a thing. Respectfully, you may have a misunderstanding of what has happened.
The more rational decision probably would have been to send the tc taken from his main account back and fix the bug rendering him completely unable to use the exploit again.
But to permaban and sink the rest of his tc that he earned through LEGITIMATE methods?
Little extreme, don't you think? This isn't me as a friend of Swaves speaking I am purely looking at this through a neutral lens.
Was it dueler bias? Was it sir's personal bias (this isnt his first rodeo with this particular user)? More importantly, was it necessary?
edit: nevermind, i thought about it a little longer than a minute which is how long i usually think about things. this is just an unfortunate L. rip
Last edited by skizz; Jun 14, 2022 at 07:29 PM.
