Originally Posted by Hxcbbqimo

You absolutely didn't read anything said by any intelligible source. Think I said a million times if you have a legitimate medical condition that you were exempt from all judgement.

P.S: using BMI for anything is pretty pointless. It's an absolutely useless measurement developed for the army to pretty ineffectively figure out how much food they needed to ration to their soldiers. By current BMI standards, the most shreded by bodybuilders in the world are obese.

Originally Posted by Hxcbbqimo

You absolutely didn't read anything said by any intelligible source. Think I said a million times if you have a legitimate medical condition that you were exempt from all judgement.

P.S: using BMI for anything is pretty pointless. It's an absolutely useless measurement developed for the army to pretty ineffectively figure out how much food they needed to ration to their soldiers. By current BMI standards, the most shreded by bodybuilders in the world are obese.







----This is my last post, so I'll make it count, because arguing after I make valid points seems silly to me:



It's cheap enough to eat healthy in the U.S., which is what we were originally discussing. I think it costs $1.27 for a box of Pasta, which is around 1330 kcals. Which is anywhere from almost all of your daily needs of food intake to about half of it depending on height, weight, age, and sex. So let's be safe and double it. For $2.54 + tax, you've got youself 2660 kcals, 21 fat, 560 complex carbs (excellent), 70g of fiber (more than double the recommendation for men), and 98g of protein, which unless you're trying to build muscle, by current RDA standards, supports a 250lbs+ male. A family of four males at around 200 pounds could eat this at $10.16 + tax + water/watorflavorings + butter/a meatsauce/a seasoning/whatever and still be living for under $5 a person per day. If you don't have $5 per day for a family of four, your nutrition is in the shitter because you're making less than a high school student working at a McDonalds makes in an hour.

This is all a hyperbole, this isn't Hxc saying "Only eat pasta!, Don't include meat, don't include fruit, soda is the devil" yaddayaddayada. This is me saying that at the basics of any health, it's BEYOND easy to eat incredibly well for incredibly cheap. Price isn't an issue.


If eating bad foods can slowly or even quickly make you addicted to them, as your last and final argument presented after the whole "they aren't cheap" concern came up, then it's up to our parents, our role models, and our education system to say what's of a good nutrition. Over-eating fatty foods, especially Fast Food is a terrible thing to do, it's a completely negative health decision that you or your parents are voluntarily making, and you deserve to pay the consequences if these are the reasons that have driven you to Obesity.

People who can't afford gym memberships: I think Planet Fitness is.. $10 a month? Now it's not the next West Side Barbell but $10 a month is 33 cents a day, which again if you can't spend $20 a day on food and $0.33 a day on fitness, then you've got much bigger problems than your weight. Not to mention: you don't need a gym to workout. Do bodyweight movements, stretch, run for crying out loud. Believe it or not you don't need a $1200 treadmill that feeds you gatorade on an IV system to run 2 miles. My father with shitty knees and weighing in well over 250 pounds of mostly fat ran a marathon. Never stepped in a LA Fitness to do that.

If your complaint is that you don't have the time to do it. Let's look at your schedule. There's 1,440 minutes in a day, let's say you work 8 hours a day, every day, and sleep 8 hours a day, now you have 480 minutes left in the day. Now you're telling me you can't find 30 minutes of that every other day or even every 3 days to dedicate to turning yourself into a more healthy you with a run and some basic activity? Fine. But if you can't, you can at least cut down on your calorie intake. It'll be cheaper for you anyways.

There are two reasons why anyone ever in the history of ever are Obese:

1) They have a legitimate medical issue which prevents them or at least greatly hinders them from exercising, staying active, or even staying on a low calorie diet.

2) They're eating more than they're spending. AKA: over eating.

Other excuses for the most part are simply lack of effort.



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Originally Posted by Boredpayne

\You all stink of judgmental self-righteousness.

"But the large large majority is people who are unhealthy because they chose to be, and they're being incredibly terrible role models, and they are wasting your tax money on their health care."

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

A relative of mine shattered a lumbar vertebrae when he was younger. For decades he has lived with incessant pain that he can't quite succeed from removing from his everyday life. All sorts of exercise is off limits to him. Tripping over something, let alone falling, causes agony, as do all other impacts. He is limited to light jogging and walking in Arizona, where daily temperatures start at 85 and end at up to 110.

Years ago, he began a new run of medication, Lyrica. Lyrica, along with a Litocaine patch, Ambien for sleeping, and a regimen of physical therapy, in addition to changing positions from standing to sitting to lying down helped him reduce the pain drastically.

However, Lyrica and Ambien both greatly increase serotonin production in the brain. This results in a prodigious appetite that, despite this relative's best efforts, largely healthy eating, and daily exercise, could not curb from adding to his weight.

This relative was eventually forced to give up Lyrica and some of his blessed relief due to concerns about his weight, which reached 200 pounds. This puts him at a BMI of just barely overweight, at around 30. His ability to overcome adversity and lead a productive and social life is a powerful inspiration.

However, reading this thread, I am sure he would be happy to know that apparently he is a lazy, irresponsible, unhealthy, slob who shovels down pounds of food as his back fat curls over the waist of his pants.

You all stink of judgmental self-righteousness.

Originally Posted by Boredpayne

A relative of mine shattered a lumbar vertebrae when he was younger. For decades he has lived with incessant pain that he can't quite succeed from removing from his everyday life. All sorts of exercise is off limits to him. Tripping over something, let alone falling, causes agony, as do all other impacts. He is limited to light jogging and walking in Arizona, where daily temperatures start at 85 and end at up to 110.

Years ago, he began a new run of medication, Lyrica. Lyrica, along with a Litocaine patch, Ambien for sleeping, and a regimen of physical therapy, in addition to changing positions from standing to sitting to lying down helped him reduce the pain drastically.

However, Lyrica and Ambien both greatly increase serotonin production in the brain. This results in a prodigious appetite that, despite this relative's best efforts, largely healthy eating, and daily exercise, could not curb from adding to his weight.

This relative was eventually forced to give up Lyrica and some of his blessed relief due to concerns about his weight, which reached 200 pounds. This puts him at a BMI of just barely overweight, at around 30. His ability to overcome adversity and lead a productive and social life is a powerful inspiration.

However, reading this thread, I am sure he would be happy to know that apparently he is a lazy, irresponsible, unhealthy, slob who shovels down pounds of food as his back fat curls over the waist of his pants.

You all stink of judgmental self-righteousness.