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Canceling bets.
This is a thread concerning the ban of someone canceling bets that were around 1%. People getting banned for enforcing the 10% rule. To my knowledge, laithoon got banned for enforcing the 10% rule. I don't see how that was a problem, when he enforced a server rule, to benefit the players so tc does not sink, is ban worthy. If i bet 1million tc, and i get a 1k counter, I would want the host to cancel the bets. Seeing as you can only get 5x what you bet, you would then sink approximately 995000 tc. I don't think that banning the person who preserves this tc from simple falling into the void should be a bannable offense. My point here, allow host to enforce the 10% rule in order to prevent the sink of tc. It's utter bullshit to ban someone for trying to save TC. It's our servers, let us run it the way we want to, without the loss of TC.

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I think the idea to send profits that would be sunk back to the better is a fair idea, but here's another: why not send the sunk profits or a portion of them to the house?
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I forsee scams where people dont cancel despite there being no counters whatsoever
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Not supported, sense the start of betting it was said that you by at your own risk. If you are going to bet then man up and bet if you are scared of no counters don't bet.

If anything canceling bets should stay illegal. It's unfair that to get nudgd to first you must bet on your self. If that bet is canceled that's a free nudge and chance to get he decapprize.
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Originally Posted by Space View Post
Not supported, sense the start of betting it was said that you by at your own risk. If you are going to bet then man up and bet if you are scared of no counters don't bet.

If anything canceling bets should stay illegal. It's unfair that to get nudgd to first you must bet on your self. If that bet is canceled that's a free nudge and chance to get he decapprize.

From what I've seen, self bets easily gets countered. Also, it's a private room for god sakes. If you dislike the OP's rules, why are you there the first place? Either way, TC should not just "disappear". We bet so we can get profits in return, what's the point of betting 1million to get 1000 TC back? And stop saying "bet at your own risk", that's not a valid statement. Since there are solutions to those "risks", why remove them?
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neither of those commands existed before and bet servers were doing pretty well, you might believe it or not but there was no such a thing as broadcast for public use or decapprize. People hosted, fun was had.

Isn't the point of updating and improving the game to make it better? What's the point of it if the game is like what it was 5 years ago?
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Pretty much the only two valid arguments I see for keeping cancelling illegal is that when bets (with counters, just not 20%) are canceled, you're screwing whoever had the lower bet out of 5x their tc, and the idea with this is that the underdog is more likely to have less on them so people willing to step up and bet on them should be rewarded. The other, is that sunk profits are good for the economy. Less money in the economy means that what money is left is "worth" more.
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Originally Posted by Scorpio View Post
that's funny argument you've got there, should we stop handling reports coming from those rooms too?

So the reason of this made illegal is because OPs abused the system? If they abuse it, ban them. The system was fine, everyone was happy with the rules. Just because a few people abused it, and people made reports about it led to server rules being illegal? Was the reason behind this because of the system being abused too much that it took so much of your time banning them, or is this to encourage TC sink?
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Originally Posted by BarenJuden View Post
Pretty much the only two valid arguments I see for keeping cancelling illegal is that when bets (with counters, just not 20%) are canceled, you're screwing whoever had the lower bet out of 5x their tc, and the idea with this is that the underdog is more likely to have less on them so people willing to step up and bet on them should be rewarded. The other, is that sunk profits are good for the economy. Less money in the economy means that what money is left is "worth" more.

TC rates will grow expensive, items price will rise = More people encouraged to buy TC, subscriptions, boosters = More money for developers.
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Originally Posted by Seihareach View Post
So the reason of this made illegal is because OPs abused the system? If they abuse it, ban them. The system was fine, everyone was happy with the rules. Just because a few people abused it, and people made reports about it led to server rules being illegal? Was the reason behind this because of the system being abused too much that it took so much of your time banning them, or is this to encourage TC sink?
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TC rates will grow expensive, items price will rise = More people encouraged to buy TC, subscriptions, boosters = More money for developers.

did you even bother reading anything besides last 5 posts?
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Scorpio I think people are arguing just to argue no one ever pays attention to the whole thread.

Also, bet at your own risk is valid. You don't see people canceling bets on horses if there are not enough counter bets you dont see casinos giving back peoples money if they bet and no one else did.

and betting servers are not betting servers they are lets see who gets the decapprize first.


Bottom line is, if you don't like the rules dont bet. Simple. No amount of crying and suggestions will change the rules. They need to sink tc in order to attempt to keep the economy stable. Pretty soon in this game there is going to be a huge number of tc sellers because people are finding out that betting and dueling bring in millions of tc.
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Betting has its name for a reason. Its meant to be risky if it was added it would not be betting it would be safebetting. bet at your own risk lol. So basiclly we can make a new betting system like if you bet and you lose the bet you cant bet for 24 hours or something else. And if you bet and win the bet you dont need to wait 24 hours. But the name still doesnt make sense for that.

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