Originally Posted by Enclave
Beating them senseless isn't the same as disciplining them for doing something wrong -_-.
Oh really? No way, such a distinction was beyond my understanding prior. You've really opened my eyes with this astounding lack of absolute awareness and understanding of viable and transferable comparisons that aren't at opposite ends of the hypothetical spectrum.
Beating them senseless isn't where the line of abuse is. Its like that stupid thing people used with "if ur hand is open its ok" and/or "if theres no mark its not abuse cuz they didnt bruise"
Imagine thinking that. Imagine justifying that kind of behaviour. If you equate abuse to beating a person so hard and for the length of time needed to actively impair their cognitive functions. Then you are suggesting that any amount of beating up until that point comes under discipline.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that is probably not what you meant, but it's what you've implied pretty heavily. So feel free to re-explain where you think that "abuse" line starts and what examples of *physical* discipline are a-okay.
Cause I'm real curious.
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Originally Posted by Maya
In online spaces, sure. In specific cities, sure. But the majority of people are still not exactly the most active in these spaces. There is much of rural America where being queer is not okay at all. Also, lots of people are queerphobic while not necessarily spitting at/beating up/shouting slurs at queer people they see. I still cannot casually say something that suggests I'm queer in most online spaces without getting rude replies.
Gonna have to agree to disagree about the majority of people being queerphobic. Ain't reasonable to call gay people faggots.
Originally Posted by Maya
The problem is that you don't know what a "good" joke about trans people is... because you don't understand trans people.
Mate, comedy is subjective. What you think a 'good' joke is is different to what I think a 'good' joke is. We all have our own senses of humor.
Originally Posted by Maya
Jokes painting trans people as weird or ugly are in bad taste and truly aren't funny to progressive people who have subconsciously normalized transgenderism.
Yes. Some jokes aren't for some people. Doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed not to joke about them. If they're in bad taste and unfunny, then they're in bad taste and unfunny - Don't laugh at them.
Originally Posted by Maya
You don't see white comics making jokes punching down at black people anymore because we've deemed that humor inappropriate and in bad taste.
I've seen plenty of white comics engaging in racial comedy. Seen plenty of it that's funny too.
Originally Posted by Maya
I don't want us to be "protected" from jokes... but if the only jokes made about us by cis people are about shitty, negative, inaccurate stereotypes associated with trans people, then we've got a problem.
It seems like you do want to be protected from them. You don't want people to be allowed to make those jokes. 'Shitty, negative, innaccurate'... Shitty is subjective, but other than that, you want all jokes to be 'positive' and 'accurate'? That'd result in some really fucking boring comedy mate. Comedy is supposed to challenge your sensibilities.
"How do you get a faggot to fuck a woman? You fill her cunt with shit". That is a joke that's in bad taste and uses some very offensive language. It's also hilarious (in my opinion and in the opinion of everyone else who laughed at it during Gilbert Gottfried's comedy special). Precisely because it's so wrong and offensive, it's funny. You can think it's a shit joke and that it deepens prejudices and whatnot, that's your right. You can't tell people what jokes they can and can't make though.. You can piss off with that joke-nazi thinking.
Originally Posted by Maya
I'm not going to continue a discussion on this specific topic here, but people were complicit. Poles especially so. I've done a great deal of research on the topic and have heard a number of stories from family.
Don't wanna talk about it? But you're still right because you're supremely educated on the topic? OK bud. Whatever.
Last edited by Ele; Feb 11, 2020 at 01:00 PM.
Originally Posted by Icky
Oh really? No way, such a distinction was beyond my understanding prior. You've really opened my eyes with this astounding lack of absolute awareness and understanding of viable and transferable comparisons that aren't at opposite ends of the hypothetical spectrum.
Beating them senseless isn't where the line of abuse is. Its like that stupid thing people used with "if ur hand is open its ok" and/or "if theres no mark its not abuse cuz they didnt bruise"
Imagine thinking that. Imagine justifying that kind of behaviour. If you equate abuse to beating a person so hard and for the length of time needed to actively impair their cognitive functions. Then you are suggesting that any amount of beating up until that point comes under discipline.
Now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that is probably not what you meant, but it's what you've implied pretty heavily. So feel free to re-explain where you think that "abuse" line starts and what examples of *physical* discipline are a-okay.
Cause I'm real curious.
Why the long post. If a kid steals or gets in a fight, pop them on the hand with a paddle. Don't beat them with a belt though...
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Why the cop out? You said you got hit with a belt, but apparently it made you better. But your new post says "oh dont do that"
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Bruh a paddle? A paddle?!
A thing that is designed to hit hard or press down across a large surface area, evenly?
On the hand? Of a CHILD?
A place with extremely little protection? On a being that HAS to trust you for their safety and care?
You believe thats the right course? That's your teaching system?
That's barbaric.
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Bruh a paddle? A paddle?!
A thing that is designed to hit hard or press down across a large surface area, evenly?
On the hand? Of a CHILD?
A place with extremely little protection? On a being that HAS to trust you for their safety and care?
You believe thats the right course? That's your teaching system?
That's barbaric.
Addicted-re 07-16
24/07/2019. I'll find you again my friend.
I mean plenty of us have gone through it and we're not dead.
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