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I really don't get why people bitch a lot and easily get butt-hurt... can't they just grow thick skin?

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Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
Dumbest statement on this thread.

What the fuck do you think dating is? There has to be attraction there to make it work. It isn't "banning" anyone from anything by not being attracted to them, because if you aren't attracted to them the relationship will not work. Are other people entitled to a relationship with me whether I want it or not just because I'm, as you seem to believe, racist for not being attracted to them?

Come the fuck on. Use logic, please, because you clearly aren't arguing with it in mind.

Originally Posted by Arctic View Post
i dont get how ur statement invalidates his though

i don't either

i'm not saying everyone has to be equally attracted to everyone

Originally Posted by Levi View Post
If someone is attracted to a certain race and has a preference for that race then so be it.

i agree, as long as it isn't an obsession

Originally Posted by Levi View Post
If you think that they are being racist in some way or they’re banning other races completely then grow up and stop being such a snowflake.

i dont think these are the same person, though they can be. a preference for one race can be normal i think, but i don't see how an aversion towards a race isn't rooted in prejudice. melt this little snowflake with your facts and logic please.

Originally Posted by Karstnator View Post


I really don't get why people bitch a lot and easily get butt-hurt... can't they just grow thick skin?

it's worse than i thought, yellow fever = legal pedophilia /s

from what i gather you don't think it's a big deal, but i think the people that are the subject of the obsession would disagree.





by the way, i don't think the mods will appreciate your aggressive tones, so bring it down before we can't talk anymore
alright guy
Ah, here is your simple, rational response: It isn't an issue, and you're making a problem out of nothing.

How is being attracted to specifically a certain race fine, but specifically not being attracted to a certain race racist? Attraction is not taught, and gay conversion therapy victims can attest to that. Racism, however, is a viewpoint entirely caused by life experience or is taught by people around the individual. If your argument is that disliking a certain race is based in prejudice (which is not an identical term to racism), you wouldn't be wrong, since we are prejudiced toward features we find attractive in a mate, and skin tone is a physical feature, however I find it a stretch to claim that that equates to racism.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong about racism being learned and both of us are actually right, meaning that racism is as natural as (and directly affects) sexual preference.
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Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
Ah, here is your simple, rational response: It isn't an issue, and you're making a problem out of nothing.


why do you think it's not an issue?
before we get on confused on what 'it' is, i'm talking about obsessive sexual behaviour centered around certain races.

Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
How is being attracted to specifically a certain race fine, but specifically not being attracted to a certain race racist? Attraction is not taught, and gay conversion therapy victims can attest to that. Racism, however, is a viewpoint entirely caused by life experience or is taught by people around the individual. If your argument is that disliking a certain race is based in prejudice (which is not an identical term to racism), you wouldn't be wrong, since we are prejudiced toward features we find attractive in a mate, and skin tone is a physical feature, however I find it a stretch to claim that that equates to racism.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong about racism being learned and both of us are actually right, meaning that racism is as natural as (and directly affects) sexual preference.


one doesn't exclude a certain race from your dating/sex life and the other does. i don't think attraction is purely nature, but a mix of nature and nurture.
Originally Posted by google's definition of racism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

it seems to fit the bill to me.

i think that racism is learned behaviour, not intrinsic to humans.
alright guy
I am not of the opinion that a fetish for a specific race is racist if you are using the textbook definition of it, which is inherently negative. Sexual fantasies can be creepy, and you're entirely justified in being put off by a fetish that you disagree with, but intense sexual attraction toward a race is, in my opinion, entirely understandable, as is any other fetish.
I do think it should come down to intent, though.
Attraction to a demographic can be problematic and damaging if not kept in check, the same as any attraction could be. Fetishes toward certain races will probably damage your chances at a real relationship with them, because if it's something you genuinely struggle to suppress, I'm sure many people would feel that you can only view them in a sexual sense. However, I think that if your ambitions don't lie in simply pursuing your object of desire, most people can live totally normal lives without any risk at offending anyone, because what you nut to should never be a point of offense on anyone's track record unless you are literally considering having sex with them.
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Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
I am not of the opinion that a fetish for a specific race is racist if you are using the textbook definition of it, which is inherently negative.

why not


Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
Sexual fantasies can be creepy, and you're entirely justified in being put off by a fetish that you disagree with, but intense sexual attraction toward a race is, in my opinion, entirely understandable, as is any other fetish.


it's not like i don't understand it, but i'd ask them to exercise restraint. don't obsess. don't tell asians 'i just love asian women'.

Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
I do think it should come down to intent, though.


i don't. for one, it is unknowable. we can make inferences but can't know intent for certain. secondly, you could have the best of intentions while saying 'i just love asian women' but that doesn't make it okay to say.

Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
Attraction to a demographic can be problematic and damaging if not kept in check, the same as any attraction could be. Fetishes toward certain races will probably damage your chances at a real relationship with them, because if it's something you genuinely struggle to suppress, I'm sure many people would feel that you can only view them in a sexual sense.


my point exactly. just don't obsess.


Originally Posted by Grohenbird View Post
However, I think that if your ambitions don't lie in simply pursuing your object of desire, most people can live totally normal lives without any risk at offending anyone, because what you nut to should never be a point of offense on anyone's track record unless you are literally considering having sex with them.



would it even be a fetish if you're not pursuing it? like not going out of your way to watch that kind of porn? also that last part is absolutely false. we can and should be allowed to condemn pedophiles that consume child porn, at least in my opinion. do you disagree?
alright guy
I think there's a pretty clear distinction between having an asian fetish and consuming child porn. 'legal pedophilia' what kind of doop shoop de wop woop weep woop spaw wowie slop hyuck hyuck schwoop schwoop schlomp schmoo skibbidy bop bip boop bing bong gonky goo buu blinky dink is this

Last edited by Glimpsed; Aug 22, 2020 at 04:11 PM.
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Originally Posted by Glimpsed View Post
I think there's a pretty clear distinction between having an asian fetish and consuming child porn. 'legal pedophilia' what kind of doop shoop de wop woop weep woop spaw wowie slop hyuck hyuck schwoop schwoop schlomp schmoo skibbidy bop bip boop bing bong gonky goo buu blinky dink is this

the legal pedophilia thing was a joke
notice the /s

the condemning pedophiles for consuming child porn was a counterexample to the following statement

Originally Posted by Grohenbird
what you nut to should never be a point of offense on anyone's track record unless you are literally considering having sex with them

alright guy
Grohenbird: You alternate between talking about attraction and a fetish, and those are two different things. You may be attracted to certain race because they tend to commonly posses certain features that you find attractive, and that's just normal. However, if you bring fetish into equation this becomes way more complicated. If you have a fetish for Asian girls for example, and you choose your partner based on that fetish, that's racist, because you're not just going for a person that possesses certain physical features (which people of other races might also possess), you are specifically going for an asian and that devalues a person. On the flip side, you might have a fetish for a certain race, but not let that fetish have any impact when it comes to dating, etc.

TL; DR: Attraction is not problematic, while fetish can be (just like any other fetish).
Last edited by Smaguris; Aug 24, 2020 at 04:19 AM.
Originally Posted by SmaBOOOOOOOris View Post
Grohenbird: You alternate between talking about attraction and a fetish, and those are two different things. You may be attracted to certain race because they tend to commonly posses certain features that you find attractive, and that's just normal. However, if you bring fetish into equation this becomes way more complicated. If you have a fetish for Asian girls for example, and you choose your partner based on that fetish, that's racist, because you're not just going for a person that possesses certain physical features (which people of other races might also possess), you are specifically going for an asian and that devalues a person. On the flip side, you might have a fetish for a certain race, but not let that fetish have any impact when it comes to dating, etc.

TL; DR: Attraction is not problematic, while fetish can be (just like any other fetish).

Yeah pretty much I agree with everything you have to say. When I type my words get tangled and I forget what my point actually is. This a problem that has been known but I try my best.
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