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Activity check and Legendary clans news
Good morning to all of you,


Today's news have been in discussion for quite a while among the clan staff team, and today they can finally be announced to the public.

What exactly is the news?

We have 2 major news points.






Thank you all for reading, if you have any questions or objections feel free to point them out in this thread, cheers.
Last edited by duck; Jul 22, 2018 at 08:20 PM.
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Well if my clan was on the hot seat obviously I wouldn’t be caring much for the game, hence why the clan would be dying
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Dead*
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Plus they gave you warning
Last edited by JoboMan; Oct 1, 2018 at 09:05 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
I apologise for this post.
Originally Posted by JoboMan View Post
Well if my clan was on the hot seat obviously I wouldn’t be caring much for the game, hence why the clan would be dying

we could discuss hypotheticals all day, but what i'm hearing is that you don't care about other clans. that's why i pointed out that your clan is not dying, and what you would do if it was so that you could look at the situation in a different light. but you didn't. idk why your posting if your attitude is just "fuckit" and this doesnt envolve you
Last edited by Zorow; Oct 1, 2018 at 09:09 AM.
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Originally Posted by Templar View Post
Everything you just said is bullshit and an attempt to make an excuse for the actions that have been taken, and an attempt to justify their necessity. And it reeks of it. Smells like a goddamn Furfag convention whenever you open your trap.

nothing meaningful here, moving on

Originally Posted by Templar View Post
Clans became official, they reach that milestone that you are talking about, and then, for the most part, they go away. People either realize that they have more shit to do, life hits them, or they get bored, but most clans die.

yes that is why there are loads of dead official clans

there hasn't ever been a real reason to keep going after official. now that there is, everyone is shitting their pants because they're so used to cruising on by with a couple posts because they didn't think it could ever be taken from them

Originally Posted by Templar View Post
Leaving dead clans official is not only pragmatically easier than hiring staff for the sole purpose of monitoring activity and other unnecessary stupid crap, it's also a testament to toribash's past, and a marker of some form of achievement.

first off, cs are volunteers. They're doing it because they want to, no one is forcing them to do it.

again, that history is still there, it isn't going to go anywhere.

We seem to have a disagreement over what exactly official means. Official shows that you were active and influential in some way when you were unofficial, and deserve to have your own board and fancy brackets. If you no longer fulfill those requirements, you should no longer be official.

You believe official is an achievement, and should only be lost through death. If you had it your way, every dead clan would be on that list because it's "history". All of that history can be found on the dead clans list, right along with all of the boards being moved their with this activity check.

official should be exclusive to the clans that are still very active in the community and ingame. If you die, all of your history will still be there, and if you want to actually maybe put forth some effort, you can always get your brackets and board back.

Originally Posted by Templar View Post
A hell of a lot of us seem to actually give half a damn about this. Maybe you SHOULD care, rather than tell others that they shouldn't.

You SHOULD know that. You've been around long enough to know that. So why are you making excuses for this Spergery?

should should should

you SHOULD understand that people have different opinions.

Originally Posted by Zorow View Post
also don't be stupid. legendary clans are dead and therefore not on the clan list, they have their own list.

you asked why legendary clans didn't have to keep standing out

it's because they're dead. they aren't on the list. They technically aren't official.

Originally Posted by Templar View Post
Lots of clans on that list that a whole hell of a lot of people would consider legendary in their own right. It's kinda like the Rock and Roll hall of fame, not all the greats are in it, for "political" reasons.

perhaps you should request that the way legendary clans are chosen is changed. It doesn't seem like we have any voice in that. That's something I could get behind.

its late, im tired, if there aren't like 30 more posts tomorrow, maybe we can continue the conversation
I'm just gamin' man
Originally Posted by Zorow View Post
im not over exaggerating, you're not understanding the significance of taking away what clans have worked hard for. when you take away the brackets NOBODY GIVES A FUCK. its put you in the same category of a clan that i can make in 2 fuckig seconds.(which btw, you dont even have to pay for anymore, making it even more meaningless) the reason there is a difference in ()-[] is so that people who don't know what your clan have done realize you have history in this game

I agree with this.

In my opinion if we think of official statuses as medals and other tangible achievements it’d make the argument a bit clear. Let’s take a sports medal for example. You get interested in a sport, you find a great team, you all work hard for months, finally get a medal in the sport. After a period of time you and your friends fall out/ don’t play the sport as much as you used to. Does that mean the sports committee should take away the medal you guys earned, just because you guys don’t compete anymore?

This metaphor is a bid biased on my side, but i see no reason at all why’d they make these clans unofficial, there have been many points given why this is a very confusing and unnecessary change when this was first announced, but i see no real response. But as much as we oppose them it seems like they will do nothing but stay quiet and enforce such rules.

Edit: All this talk about “history”. What i think is being lost is pride. People’s pride in making a clan official, being accepted in an official clan. People who have done so much to make a clan official, and for some to be accepted into one.

If this is to push for a more active community, i think this is not the way, like a point made in this thread “beating a dying mule won’t work”. There should’ve been efforts to attract new players rather than doing all of this. (Arguments that have been reiterated many times here, :shrug: )

The problem is way more fundamental, the game gets boring real fast after a certain point, it has been for many years, this is the problem that should be tackled in my opinion.
Last edited by Jack; Oct 1, 2018 at 09:26 AM.
Originally Posted by Jaxon View Post


you asked why legendary clans didn't have to keep standing out

it's because they're dead. they aren't on the list. They technically aren't official.

you didn't answer the question. if they are dead, why are they rewarded for such behavior. shouldntt they just be deemed unofficial like the rest?
youre diging a hole.
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Originally Posted by Jack View Post
I agree with this.
In my opinion if we think of official statuses as medals and other tangible achievements it’d make the argument a bit clear. Let’s take a sports medal for example. You get interested in a sport, you find a great team, you all work hard for months, finally get a medal in the sport. After a period of time you and your friends fall out/ don’t play the sport as much as you used to. Does that mean the sports committee should take away the medal you guys earned, just because you guys don’t compete anymore?
This metaphor is a bid biased on my side, but i see no reason at all why’d they make these clans unofficial, there have been many points given why this is a very confusing and unnecessary change when this was first announced, but i see no real response. But as much as we oppose them it seems like they will do nothing but stay quiet and enforce such rules.

couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm getting a little too upset about this. im going to take a break for now. hopefully this conversation will ring a bell in an admins head and somthing will be done about it.
Last edited by Zorow; Oct 1, 2018 at 09:20 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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I'm Market Squad, not Clan Squad, those are just personal thoughts.

Don't think about it as medals, think about it as some sort of league.
Some are in the top places, some are in the middle and some are of the bottom.

What happens if all the players from old top teams leave? the team will go to the bottom and will be relegated into League 2 (de-officialisation)
Last edited by Krong; Oct 1, 2018 at 09:48 AM.
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Originally Posted by Kriegery View Post
Don't think about it as medals, think about it as some sort of league.
Some are in the top places, some are in the middle and some are of the bottom.

What happens if all the players from old top teams leave? the team will go to the bottom and will be relegated into League 2 (de-officialisation)

I think this is a misunderstanding between the clan squad and the community. At least in my case it has always been a “medal” more than a “league”, none of the arguments pointed here gave me a reason to think otherwise. Because of the more lenient approach the clan squad had ever since the creation, the community had the “medal” mentality. There is nothing really wrong with wanting to change that mentality into a more stricter “league” one. But most of the people are against it, there are no flow of new players that can adapt into that mentality and support the whole change. I really enjoy the game and the community, so it makes me sad that there’s a change being implemented that makes the community so visibly upset, or that the staff aren’t trying to console the community and encourage that this a good change.
Templar could've literally brought his clan out of inactivity with the time he's spending on these posts
Last edited by Hattersin; Oct 1, 2018 at 12:44 PM.
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Clan officialization is not a PERMANENT status, it's not the end of the line, this is what you guys need to put into your heads. All of the red clans eventually would die anyway, even with the old activity system. Killing clans is not a new thing in this community, this is just a better way to judge their activity and if they deserve to stay as an official clan.
We don't did it because we are bad people or something, our job is to incentive you and your clan to play the game, make some posts and stay in this awesome community. If your clan died, you can still revive it or you can still post in a new clan thread.
We do it because we don't need 700 official clans and so we can have some spots for the new generation of clans that can show us the activity that we need to see.
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Also my clan got a strike
Angery
Last edited by Life; Oct 1, 2018 at 02:09 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
R.I.P Static

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tell me why this is a problem. all those clans are dead, and all of them are still offical. offical is a title not an obligation. they're nothing wrong with letting clans keep their status, while also letting them die.
Last edited by Zorow; Oct 1, 2018 at 02:17 PM.
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