This shows how inactive you are, public lobbys are he heart of noob farming. They are filled with low skilled players and a couple high skilled. Look at public TK, about %90 of the lobby has terrible players in it and you will find a couple good players. Not only that but look at the top 10 mod ranked players, I was versus one and he was awfull.. just goes to show how much noob farming goes on in public lobbys.

Private servers are good as newbies can kick the higher skilled players when they are being repeatedly defeated.

The reason for QI restrictions being a MUST in these lobbys is because the majority of the best players are all from the dueling community (In my opinion) and if you have ever been there you will see that there is an insane amount of alts. I think if there wasn't any QI restricions the top tier lobbys would have many alts in them. A 2,000 QI restriction is hardly a large amount for a newish player to achieve, but it is enough to stop alts.

I thought you were a smart guy Sir, is it really that hard to understand how you cannot noob farm using this?

Originally Posted by sir

FistofLife: I actually read your post carefully enough. If you can't see drawbacks in your suggestion, you probably have to start reading others' posts and react adequately to them.


I guess you don't make any difference between "farming" and "playing against whitebelts with an alt".
When you let ranking system work in private rooms, you get people locking it (+ supposedly ghosting it) and farming ELO. No matter what belt they have, white belt or god belt. This can only be prevented by disabling ranks in such rooms and keeping them for official only.
If you want to prevent people with huge qi difference from getting ranking points for playing against each other, I don't see any reasons for implementing a whole new system instead of tweaking the current one. Keep it only for qi-based rooms, add 'rank groups' to prevent brownbelts who play a lot from beating 10th dans and that's all.


As for mod rotation, why not to have more official rooms? There aren't THAT many mods people play on regular basis and there are even less mods that can be considered 'fair'. If players care about ranks, rooms will be crowded enough not to stay empty all the time.



Also please stop adding "esport" to every idea that includes rank / game client upgrades.

Originally Posted by Toxic

People currently don't care about ranks because it's so inaccurate. Why would I work hard, and beat people of my skill level and try getting my elo up, when a much lower skill level player can just farm their elo from newer players and end up with a higher elo than me? If a good system were to be implemented and it would actually work, it is normal for it to get competitive. It would actually encourage people to see who is the best or who is up the in the top players. It would motivate people to get better and to keep playing for a better elo, who doesn't like being in the top 5% of players in a list?

Originally Posted by FistofLife

I cringe and my brain hurts at your response... or maybe I just never wrote my idea very clearly. Not once did I mention cutting off players from playing higher QI players and for the love of god can you not see i wrote all numbers are subject to change that includes the QI restriction on lobbys!! The only reason for these QI restrictions on ranked lobbys at higher tiers was nothing to do with stopping "Skill" and to prevent blues being vs 10ths. It is there purely to stop ALTS.

Do I need to hold your hand as I explain each part step by step?

The reason these QI restrictions would not effect regular players is because do you really think a Legit blue or green belt will be in the top 1000 players? Lets say the QI restriction was on the Tier 6 + lobbys. The only people this would effect is Alts.

Also it is 2015. There is hardly any people at all who solely go out of there way to ghost lobbys to farm rank. This is non existent at this time, its not 2008 which is probably the last time you played in game.

The reason for this system has nothing to do with stopping farming, it is there to add legitimate competitive play for EVERYONE. If you read my system clearly you will see it is not possible to farm rank.

The reason for "Not just adding more official lobbys" is because to work out a real legitimate rank players have to be skilled at all competitive mods, not just there favourite one.

*On a side note, I know what you mean by Rank farming and Noob bashing. The point of this system is to add a rank system which isn't all about noob bashing. I may have said rank farming when I men't noob bashing at some points.

Originally Posted by Toxic

Like I said, the point of a ranking system is to demonstrate skill, if an alt is in the top players... well, that means that player is that good, it means the system is accurate, now you may say, well, he got up there by farming newer players,well, with the rank or tier thing, he would have to advance through every tier to get that high. Meaning, he gets to a certain point in elo where he advances to the next tier, he can no longer get elo from those newer players, he Is now facing a bit more experienced players, if by doing this he gets all the way up to top tier, it would mean the is capable enough to beat most players in all skill levels, the system would be accurate in his skill. Having a alt blue belt up there doesn't matter... people would know it's an alt, but why would you have an alt instead of your main so high up there? Belt doesn't matter and we all know this, an alt that is a blue belt can be up there, the system is saying he is very skilled, and it's not lieing. That's what makes a good system work, it all depends on accuracy. Your system would work just don't focus too much on alts.