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I would like to bring up capital punishment as well as juvenile convictions as adults.
Should capital punishment still be allowed in the United States?
Bear in mind that the US is the ONLY nation in the world still practicing capital punishment. My take is somewhat conservative in viewpoints despite the fact that I am a hardcore liberal Democrat. I believe that capital punishment should be used on all inmates incarcerated for life sentences. More money is spent on one prisoner per year than it takes to send a student to Stanford. This would mean a large cut on the cost of housing inmates that are otherwise just taking up unneeded space.
Should juveniles that have committed heinous crimes be convicted as adults?
My viewpoint on this topic is a bit more liberal, however. I believe that juveniles do not yet have the cogitative development to comprehend their actions and therefore should not have to face adult-like consequences.
Any opinions?
Should capital punishment still be allowed in the United States?
Bear in mind that the US is the ONLY nation in the world still practicing capital punishment. My take is somewhat conservative in viewpoints despite the fact that I am a hardcore liberal Democrat. I believe that capital punishment should be used on all inmates incarcerated for life sentences. More money is spent on one prisoner per year than it takes to send a student to Stanford. This would mean a large cut on the cost of housing inmates that are otherwise just taking up unneeded space.
Should juveniles that have committed heinous crimes be convicted as adults?
My viewpoint on this topic is a bit more liberal, however. I believe that juveniles do not yet have the cogitative development to comprehend their actions and therefore should not have to face adult-like consequences.
Any opinions?
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Originally Posted by Twilight
Should capital punishment still be allowed in the United States?
Bear in mind that the US is the ONLY nation in the world still practicing capital punishment. My take is somewhat conservative in viewpoints despite the fact that I am a hardcore liberal Democrat. I believe that capital punishment should be used on all inmates incarcerated for life sentences. More money is spent on one prisoner per year than it takes to send a student to Stanford. This would mean a large cut on the cost of housing inmates that are otherwise just taking up unneeded space.
First of all, it's not true that the US is the only nation which still practices capital punishment. Capital punishment is currently pracitced in Afghanistan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Belarus, Botswana, China, Cuba, Egypt, Guatemala, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Lebanon, Malaysia, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Tonga, United Arab Emirates, United States, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. As for your views on capital punishment, I can certainly appreciate an enthusiasm for it and I share a similar view. However, due to the fact that many inmates with life sentences are often either paroled or found to have been wrongfully convicted, I think the "all prisoners serving life sentences" thing should be limited to prisoners serving life sentences without chance of parole who have been incarcerated for at least five years. Now, that's not to say that none of the others deserve the death sentence or that the death sentence should be used exclusively in those cases. That's only if you want to lay down a blanket rule; which, for the record, I do support.
Originally Posted by Twilight
Should juveniles that have committed heinous crimes be convicted as adults?
My viewpoint on this topic is a bit more liberal, however. I believe that juveniles do not yet have the cogitative development to comprehend their actions and therefore should not have to face adult-like consequences.
Any opinions?
No. Never. It defeats the purpose of having separate convictions for minors versus adults. Even if the minor does have a clear and malicious intent behind their crime, there's no reason to make a mockery of the exact nature of the law by allowing this term to be so flexible and imprecise. This is dumb.
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Originally Posted by Risk
First of all, it's not true that the US is the only nation which still practices capital punishment. Capital punishment is currently pracitced in Afghanistan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Belarus, Botswana, China, Cuba, Egypt, Guatemala, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Lebanon, Malaysia, Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Syria, Taiwan, Tajikistan, Tonga, United Arab Emirates, United States, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. As for your views on capital punishment, I can certainly appreciate an enthusiasm for it and I share a similar view. However, due to the fact that many inmates with life sentences are often either paroled or found to have been wrongfully convicted, I think the "all prisoners serving life sentences" thing should be limited to prisoners serving life sentences without chance of parole who have been incarcerated for at least five years. Now, that's not to say that none of the others deserve the death sentence or that the death sentence should be used exclusively in those cases. That's only if you want to lay down a blanket rule; which, for the record, I do support.
Oops, I meant to say that America is the only developed, high productivity economy nations. Many of the nations you listed are not considered developed. Syria is a prime example. Revolutionary war going on there. As far as I can see, the only one's that give merit to your argument are Japan, Russia, China, and South Korea. That does prove my statement wrong however so I will retract that. That was just something I heard through the grapevine in my economics class.
Originally Posted by Risk
No. Never. It defeats the purpose of having separate convictions for minors versus adults. Even if the minor does have a clear and malicious intent behind their crime, there's no reason to make a mockery of the exact nature of the law by allowing this term to be so flexible and imprecise. This is dumb.
I would have to agree with this one.
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Originally Posted by Twilight
Oops, I meant to say that America is the only developed, high productivity economy nations.
Cases could be made for China, South Korea, Russia, Taiwan, the UAE, India, and Singapore. And very strong cases could be made for Belarus and Japan, both of which are first world countries. Edit: Sorry, Belarus is more of a Second World Country. And as far as Capitial punshment goes, I agree with it on a moral level, for anything other than serial murder, and agree with it on a statsical level.
As far as minors being tried as adults, that is stupid, but more than anything I think that instead of adults, we should consider a minor under 16, and everyone else should be tried to the full extent of the law. No exceptions.
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