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Is consensual incest morally wrong or just a societal taboo?
So y’all might’ve noticed things have gotten a little silly lately with the goat threads in Off-Topic. They talked about some pretty wild stuff. While I completely understand why these threads were deleted and moved around, I can’t help but think the underlying point being made in these threads made some (weird) kind of sense.
When we think about these disgusting topics, we instantly think there’s no discussion to be had. It’s wrong and that’s that. But why exactly are these things wrong? I saw a post Maya made in wibbles a little while ago that talked about incest. She made the point that if protection is worn, there’s nothing inherently immoral about sleeping with your consenting relatives.
Instantly I thought that was a pretty bold and gross thing to say. But it did get me thinking. What is immoral about incest, exactly? If you’re wearing protection and not wearing anything, are there any moral risks?
I do not intend this to be some joke thread. I’m genuinely interested in what everyone has to say, and whether anyone can come up with a valid argument that clearly points out the supposed ‘immorality’ of incest between two consenting people wearing protection.
When we think about these disgusting topics, we instantly think there’s no discussion to be had. It’s wrong and that’s that. But why exactly are these things wrong? I saw a post Maya made in wibbles a little while ago that talked about incest. She made the point that if protection is worn, there’s nothing inherently immoral about sleeping with your consenting relatives.
Instantly I thought that was a pretty bold and gross thing to say. But it did get me thinking. What is immoral about incest, exactly? If you’re wearing protection and not wearing anything, are there any moral risks?
I do not intend this to be some joke thread. I’m genuinely interested in what everyone has to say, and whether anyone can come up with a valid argument that clearly points out the supposed ‘immorality’ of incest between two consenting people wearing protection.
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no, just no. its morally wrong cuz you can fuck up ur relationship with your family/friends, if you were to ever have a falling out/feud with ur cousin, sister, brother, whoever u were to have sex with, it would be twice as worse due to u having an intimate relationship in the past. that could literally tear a family apart
Last edited by Berzerk; May 7, 2020 at 11:17 PM.
Originally Posted by Berzerk
no, just no. its morally wrong cuz you can fuck up ur relationship with your family/friends, if you were to ever have a falling out/feud with ur cousin, sister, brother, whoever u were to have sex with, it would be twice as worse due to u having an intimate relationship in the past. that could literally tear a family apart
it can only tear apart families because it is seen as morally wrong, but what is the logically sound reason for it being morally wrong?
a son coming out as gay to closed-minded parents could also tear a family apart, does that make being gay morally wrong?
alright guy
It is morally wrong. 1, the products of incest are prone to genetic disorders. 2, incest is never consensual because one person is in a position of power over the other and it can tear families apart when the relationship end. 3. If they are not blood relatives or gay then the family dynamic will still be ruined, and familial bonds will eventually be severed when one of decides to end the sexual relationship. There's a reason every language in every culture has a swear and a slur associated with incest between close family members and it's not because it's a societal taboo. It's because it's morally wrong. It is uncivilized and equivalent in moral harm to slavery.
If the folk involved never knew they were related until after their sexual relationship started then the only correct course of action is to end the sexual aspect of the relationship and be deeply disturbed that it happened.
The only reason incest porn is currently popular is because degeneracy with a built in racy plot line, and more extreme porn sells better than other types of porn. It's the morally wrong aspect that people watch it for.
If the folk involved never knew they were related until after their sexual relationship started then the only correct course of action is to end the sexual aspect of the relationship and be deeply disturbed that it happened.
The only reason incest porn is currently popular is because degeneracy with a built in racy plot line, and more extreme porn sells better than other types of porn. It's the morally wrong aspect that people watch it for.
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Originally Posted by sirkill1
It is morally wrong. 1, the products of incest are prone to genetic disorders.
Just gonna quote Moop here.
Originally Posted by Moop
If you’re wearing protection and not wearing anything, are there any moral risks?
Sure you could argue that protection is not 100% effective, but I don't think we should be talking about the fringe case here.
Originally Posted by sirkill1
2, incest is never consensual because one person is in a position of power over the other and it can tear families apart when the relationship end
This might be the case with a parent/child incestuous relation, but you cannot tell me that two adult siblings have any power over each other.
Originally Posted by sirkill1
3. If they are not blood relatives or gay then the family dynamic will still be ruined, and familial bonds will eventually be severed when one of decides to end the sexual relationship. There's a reason every language in every culture has a swear and a slur associated with incest between close family members and it's not because it's a societal taboo. It's because it's morally wrong. It is uncivilized and equivalent in moral harm to slavery.
"Bad because historically perceived as bad". I refer you to homosexuality until recently.
Originally Posted by sirkill1
If the folk involved never knew they were related until after their sexual relationship started then the only correct course of action is to end the sexual aspect of the relationship and be deeply disturbed that it happened.
Why? If they were having fun, not making babies, why should they stop? That is the question we are trying to answer in this thread.
Originally Posted by sirkill1
The only reason incest porn is currently popular is because degeneracy with a built in racy plot line, and more extreme porn sells better than other types of porn. It's the morally wrong aspect that people watch it for.
Except I don't think it is why they watch it. I think they watch it because it is taboo.
If people watched it because it is morally wrong, why doesn't the exploitative porn and rape porn rise to the top?
Originally Posted by bacic
why the fuck you even think about those things,
normal person doesn't even think about it.
Originally Posted by Moop
I saw a post Maya made in wibbles a little while ago that talked about incest. She made the point that if protection is worn, there’s nothing inherently immoral about sleeping with your consenting relatives.
He further thinks about it because it is interesting that something so taboo has no (obvious) logically sound reason that justifies it being immoral.
I feel like I have to put a disclaimer after this, so here we go: I do not engage in incestuous relations (or any for that matter
), nor do I want to. I am simply playing the role of devil's advocate here.Also stop with the family torn apart shit when I countered that (at least in my opinion) in the third post.
Last edited by fudgiebalz; May 8, 2020 at 02:35 PM.
alright guy
