Toribash
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Dear👏Cishet👏People
Hopefully👏this👏doesn’t👏come👏across👏as👏too👏“stream👏 of👏consciousness”👏like.👏I👏know👏it’ll👏be👏rather👏lon g👏and👏not👏many👏will👏read👏it,👏but👏I’ve👏wanted👏to👏sh are👏my👏thoughts👏on👏these👏topics👏for👏a👏while👏now,👏a nd👏Toribash👏is👏the👏community👏where👏these👏things👏af fect👏me👏most,👏because👏of👏the👏amount👏of👏socializing 👏done👏on👏the👏forums,👏ingame,👏and👏on👏discord.👏It’s👏 just👏nice👏to👏collect👏my👏thoughts👏on👏it👏all👏anyways .👏I’m👏open👏to👏answering👏almost👏any👏question👏as👏lon g👏as👏it’s👏constructive👏in👏some👏way.


I’d👏like👏to👏talk👏about👏two👏things👏in👏particular.👏I ’ll👏first👏cover👏pretty👏much👏all👏things👏related👏to👏 being👏transgender👏and👏then👏discuss👏what👏being👏LGBT Q/trans👏on👏an👏online👏game👏is👏like.👏I’ve👏been👏spurred 👏to👏write👏this👏by👏the👏surprising👏(maybe👏not👏so👏sur prising?)👏amount👏of👏ignorance👏I’ve👏encountered👏sin ce👏coming👏out.👏Just👏know👏that👏this👏is👏all👏from👏my👏 point👏of👏view👏only👏and👏is👏in👏no👏way👏representative 👏of👏trans👏people👏as👏a👏whole,👏but👏a👏lot👏of👏it👏will👏 apply👏to👏a👏good👏portion👏of👏the👏trans👏population👏an yways.


So👏first👏things👏first...👏being👏transgender👏just👏me ans👏not👏necessarily👏strictly👏identifying👏with👏your 👏gender👏assigned👏at👏birth.👏I👏say👏“gender👏assigned👏 at👏birth”👏and👏not👏“biological👏gender”👏because👏a👏lo t👏of👏people👏are👏much👏more👏biologically👏similar👏to👏 the👏opposite👏sex👏after👏hormones👏or👏surgery.👏Anyone 👏who👏is👏not👏transgender👏is👏cisgender.👏One👏shouldn’ t👏use👏the👏term👏“transsexual”👏because👏it👏assumes👏th at👏the👏person👏is👏intending👏to👏physically👏transitio n👏in👏some👏way,👏and👏that’s👏not👏always👏the👏case.👏It’ s👏safe👏to👏use👏either👏“trans”👏or👏“transgender”👏(as👏 adjectives,👏NOT👏nouns).👏Those👏who👏are👏non-binary👏(don’t👏associate👏fully👏with👏either👏male👏or👏 female)👏are👏also👏trans.👏I👏am👏non-binary👏(enby👏or👏nb👏for👏short)👏myself.👏I👏came👏to👏th is👏conclusion👏after👏thinking👏about👏who👏I👏am,👏what👏 makes👏me👏me.👏When👏I👏think👏about👏myself,👏I👏don’t👏re ally👏think👏about👏a👏gender;👏I’m👏much👏more👏defined👏b y👏my👏passions,👏my👏actions,👏my👏views👏and👏opinions,👏 my👏mannerisms,👏etc.👏That👏being👏said,👏I’ve👏found👏th at👏acting👏a👏bit👏more👏feminine👏feels👏easier,👏more👏n atural,👏and👏by👏extension👏I👏feel👏I’d👏like👏to👏look👏c uter👏and👏more👏feminine,👏because👏I’d👏feel👏more👏comf ortable👏acting👏the👏way👏I👏do.👏This👏is👏essentially👏w hy👏I’m👏transitioning,👏but👏there👏are👏tons👏of👏other👏 reasons👏others👏do.👏Some👏feel👏they’ve👏always👏been👏t he👏opposite👏gender👏stuck👏in👏the👏wrong👏body,👏someti mes👏even👏before👏puberty.👏Others👏just👏asked👏themsel ves👏“well👏if👏I👏could👏wake👏up👏tomorrow👏as👏either👏ge nder👏with👏no👏repercussions,👏which👏would👏I👏pick?”👏I f👏they👏picked👏the👏opposite👏binary👏gender👏and👏thoug ht👏about👏it👏enough,👏they👏may👏identify👏as👏trans.👏Li ke👏I👏said,👏there👏are👏countless👏reasons,👏and👏none👏i s👏more👏“valid”👏than👏others.👏I’ll👏cover👏this👏a👏bit👏 more👏in👏the👏next👏paragraph.👏I’d👏like👏to👏note👏that👏 pronouns👏and👏names👏are👏so👏important👏to👏so👏many👏tra ns👏people👏because👏those👏things👏are👏indicative👏of👏h ow👏others👏think👏of👏you.👏If👏I👏do👏not👏feel👏like👏a👏gu y,👏it👏doesn’t👏feel👏great👏to👏be👏addressed👏as👏one.👏T hink👏about👏a👏more👏masculine👏looking👏cisgender👏girl 👏being👏called👏a👏guy👏in👏person;👏it’s👏a👏bit👏insultin g,👏and👏it👏hurts👏even👏more👏to👏some👏trans👏people.👏It ’s👏also👏important👏to👏understand👏that👏trans👏women👏a re👏women👏and👏trans👏men👏are👏men;👏they👏are👏not👏“wome n/men👏who👏want👏to👏be👏men/women”👏and👏thinking👏about👏them👏in👏this👏way,👏even👏s ubconsciously,👏is👏transphobic.


I’ve👏seen👏a👏lot👏of👏trans👏gatekeeping,👏where👏one👏qu estions👏why👏exactly👏another👏person👏feels👏they👏iden tify👏as👏something👏other👏than👏their👏gender👏assigned 👏at👏birth👏and👏whether👏they👏actually👏qualify👏as👏tra ns.👏I👏can’t👏stress👏this👏point👏here👏enough👏-👏it👏does👏not👏matter.👏If👏the👏person👏is👏confused👏and 👏exploring👏their👏identity,👏it’ll👏be👏helpful👏to👏the m👏to👏call👏them👏by👏whatever👏they’d👏like👏to👏be👏calle d,👏use👏the👏pronouns👏they’d👏like,👏so👏that👏they👏can👏 get👏a👏better👏understanding👏of👏themselves👏and👏know👏 whether👏it👏feels👏right.👏If👏the👏person👏is👏very👏much 👏sure👏of👏their👏identity,👏calling👏them👏by👏the👏corre ct👏name👏and👏pronouns👏is👏doubly👏important👏because👏i t👏deserves👏to👏be👏legitimized.👏Calling👏someone👏by👏t he👏incorrect👏name/pronouns👏reminds👏them👏of👏the👏old👏identity👏they’re👏 trying👏to👏escape,👏even👏if👏you👏made👏a👏mistake.👏Most 👏all👏of👏the👏time,👏they’ll👏casually👏remind👏you👏of👏t he👏correct👏name/pronouns.👏Please👏don’t👏take👏it👏as👏an👏insult👏or👏tak e👏it👏to👏mean👏that👏they👏are👏offended👏by👏what👏you’ve 👏said.👏It’s👏just👏to👏remind👏you👏in👏case👏you👏forgot, 👏and👏maybe👏to👏clear👏up👏any👏misunderstanding👏for👏an yone👏who👏might👏be👏listening👏in.👏If👏it👏was👏just👏a👏m istake,👏there’s👏no👏need👏to👏be👏offended.👏A👏small👏ap ology👏or👏“oops”👏suffices.👏If👏you’re👏purposefully👏m isgendering👏however,👏don’t👏expect👏a👏cordial👏respon se,👏because👏it’s👏rather👏malicious👏behavior.👏I’ve👏a lso👏seen👏some👏say👏something👏to👏the👏effect👏of👏“well 👏you👏look👏like👏a👏guy/you👏have👏a👏penis,👏so👏that’s👏how👏I’ll👏address👏you.” 👏If👏it👏makes👏me👏feel👏better👏to👏use👏the👏correct👏pro nouns,👏and👏any👏honest👏mistakes👏on👏your👏part👏will👏b e👏excused,👏is👏it👏really👏so👏much👏trouble👏to👏attempt 👏to👏use👏the👏correct👏name/pronouns?👏A👏good👏amount👏of👏people👏have👏a👏hard👏time 👏understanding👏why👏we👏care👏so👏much👏about👏our👏prono uns👏because👏they’re👏cisgender👏and👏do👏not👏experienc e👏the👏dysphoria👏most👏trans👏people👏do.👏Some👏trans👏p eople👏don’t👏care👏so👏much👏about👏pronouns,👏but👏the👏m ajority👏do.👏I👏feel👏more👏comfortable👏acting👏in👏a👏mo re👏stereotypically👏feminine👏way,👏I’d👏feel👏more👏com fortable👏if👏I👏looked👏feminine,👏and👏those👏thoughts👏 become👏pretty👏pervasive.👏It👏has👏gotten👏to👏the👏poin t👏where👏I👏feel👏pretty👏crappy👏about👏my👏masculine👏fe atures👏which👏haven’t👏changed👏yet;👏being👏reminded👏o f👏my👏(slowly👏disappearing)👏masculine👏side👏feels👏sh itty.👏I’m👏getting👏more👏comfortable👏with👏my👏masculi nity👏overall,👏but👏certainly👏not👏as👏much👏the👏physic al👏side👏of👏it.👏As👏a👏bit👏of👏a👏side👏note,👏it👏would👏b e👏fantastic👏if👏people👏would👏practice👏using👏t hey/them👏pronouns👏to👏refer👏to👏people👏they👏do👏not👏know👏 the👏gender👏of;👏lots👏of👏people👏assume👏everyone👏in👏a n👏online👏game👏goes👏by👏he/him👏and👏having👏to👏correct👏this👏mistake👏gets👏quite👏 tiresome.


Gender👏nonconformity👏needs👏to👏be👏normalized.👏Wheth er👏it👏is👏the👏type👏of👏clothes👏a👏person👏decides👏to👏w ear,👏the👏makeup👏or👏piercings👏they👏may👏or👏may👏not👏h ave,👏or👏the👏body👏parts👏they👏have👏or👏desire,👏no👏sup erficial👏characteristic👏determines👏or👏specifies👏ge nder.👏While👏gender👏is👏quite👏a👏ball👏of👏stereotypes, 👏nobody👏needs👏to👏act👏a👏certain👏way,👏look👏a👏certain 👏way,👏wear👏certain👏clothes,👏or👏have👏certain👏body👏p arts👏to👏identify👏as👏any👏specific👏gender.👏Having👏a👏 penis👏does👏not👏make👏one👏a👏man,👏acting👏in👏a👏stereot ypically👏feminine👏manner👏does👏not👏make👏one👏a👏woman ,👏etc.👏We👏need👏to👏stop👏judging👏people👏by👏the👏way👏t hey👏outwardly👏appear.👏Criticizing👏a👏person’s👏behav ior👏or👏appearance👏as👏being👏gender👏nonconforming👏is 👏ridiculous.👏Let👏people👏act👏and👏dress👏the👏way👏they ’d👏like👏as👏long👏as👏it’s👏not👏hurting👏anyone.


Against👏my👏better👏judgement,👏I👏want👏to👏touch👏on👏se xual👏attraction👏to👏trans👏people👏(or👏lack👏thereof). 👏Being👏grossed👏out👏by👏the👏thought👏of👏a👏trans👏perso n’s👏body👏is👏not👏okay.👏Being👏grossed👏out👏by👏the👏tho ught👏of👏any👏healthy👏human👏body👏is👏not👏okay.👏You👏ma y👏not👏be👏particularly👏attracted👏to👏the👏genitals👏a👏 person👏has,👏but👏their👏body👏is👏not👏disgusting👏for👏h aving👏those👏genitals.👏For👏all👏those👏that👏don’t👏wan t👏to👏see👏dicks👏on👏models/characters👏in👏spaces👏where👏porn👏is👏shared…👏well👏I👏 see👏vaginas👏all👏the👏time👏in👏those👏kinds👏of👏spaces👏 and👏though👏I’m👏not👏particularly👏attracted👏to👏them, 👏it’s👏seriously👏not👏a👏big👏deal👏seeing👏them.👏Saying 👏you👏are👏“not👏attracted👏to👏trans👏people”👏is👏transp hobic.👏There👏are👏plenty👏of👏trans👏people👏who👏have👏t he👏genitals👏and👏bodies👏you👏are👏attracted👏to👏(remem ber👏that👏plenty👏of👏non-binary👏people👏don’t👏change👏their👏presentation👏and👏 don’t👏seek👏any👏medical👏intervention👏and👏that👏some👏 trans👏people👏have👏surgeries👏to👏change👏their👏genita ls).👏Granted,👏I👏myself👏have👏dated👏a👏few👏trans👏masc uline👏people👏who👏have👏vaginas👏and👏it,👏again,👏wasn’ t👏a👏big👏deal👏at👏all.👏We👏didn’t👏use👏that👏part👏while 👏engaging👏in👏sexual👏activities👏and👏that👏was👏that.👏 Having👏an👏extreme👏aversion👏to👏specific👏genitals👏is 👏often👏subconsciously👏homophobic;👏I’ve👏known👏plent y👏of👏guys👏who👏refuse👏to👏even👏look👏at👏a👏penis👏becau se👏they’re👏so👏concerned👏with👏other👏people👏perceivi ng👏them👏as👏straight.👏I’ve👏also👏known👏plenty👏of👏str aight👏guys👏who👏claim👏they👏wouldn’t👏even👏be👏attract ed👏to👏trans👏women👏who👏have👏had👏GCS👏(genital👏confir mation👏surgery)👏because👏they👏know👏they👏“used👏to👏be 👏men.”👏This👏is👏disgusting👏and👏transphobic;👏they👏ar e👏women👏and👏seeing👏them👏as👏anything👏else👏is👏wrong. 👏Trans👏chasing👏is👏also👏an👏issue👏for👏lots👏of👏trans👏 people,👏but👏I👏don’t👏see👏too👏much👏of👏it👏in👏this👏com munity👏and👏you👏can👏look👏that👏up👏yourself👏if👏you👏wa nt👏to👏learn👏more.


Next,👏I👏want👏to👏talk👏about👏gay👏jokes.👏Let’s👏get👏on e👏thing👏straight👏(hehe),👏being👏gay👏is👏not👏inherent ly👏funny👏and👏gay👏acts👏aren’t👏either.👏For👏a👏lot👏of👏 us,👏gay👏shit👏is👏just…👏normal.👏Making👏fun👏of👏people 👏for👏being👏gay👏is👏just👏homophobic👏and👏harmful👏over all.👏Making👏fun👏of👏someone👏by👏calling👏them👏gay,👏wh ether👏or👏not👏you👏mean👏it,👏implies👏that👏you👏think👏b eing👏gay👏is👏funny👏or👏a👏joke👏in👏some👏way.👏It’s👏just 👏life👏for👏so👏many👏of👏us,👏so👏thinking👏it’s👏weird👏or 👏a👏joke👏is👏insensitive.👏Spreading👏the👏idea👏that👏ga y👏things👏are👏funny👏is👏problematic👏because👏it👏perpe tuates👏the👏idea👏that👏being👏gay👏is👏“weird”👏in👏some👏 sense.👏It’s👏only👏ever👏funny👏to👏people👏because👏it👏i s👏not👏“normal”👏to👏them.👏Gay👏jokes👏from👏queer👏peopl e👏are👏only👏ever👏funny👏because👏they’re👏satirizing👏h omophobes.👏Using👏the👏word👏“gay”👏to👏mean👏“bad”👏or👏“ stupid”👏is👏obviously👏also👏problematic.👏Whether👏you ’re👏actually👏homophobic👏or👏not,👏you’re👏suggesting👏 that👏“gay”👏means👏“stupid”👏on👏some👏level.👏You’re👏sp reading👏a👏harmful👏sentiment.👏The👏same👏can👏be👏said👏 of👏using👏the👏word👏“retarded”👏to👏mean👏“idiotic.”👏Th ere’s👏also👏a👏big👏issue👏with👏something👏I👏call👏“The👏 South👏Park👏Ideology”👏which👏is👏essentially👏the👏mind state👏of👏a👏troll.👏It👏is👏taking👏the👏piss👏out👏of👏any one👏and👏everyone.👏It👏sort👏of👏suggests👏that👏nobody👏 is👏actually👏really👏genuine👏and👏selfless,👏so👏it👏is👏 okay👏to👏make👏fun👏of👏everyone👏for👏anything.👏Punchin g👏down👏makes👏for👏some👏seriously👏shitty👏comedy.👏Why 👏make👏fun👏of👏those👏who👏have👏it👏so👏much👏worse👏off👏f or👏the👏things👏that👏make👏them👏so👏much👏worse👏off?👏It 👏is👏simply👏a👏cheap👏way👏for👏the👏writer👏of👏the👏joke👏 and👏the👏audience👏to👏feel👏better👏about👏themselves.👏 They👏put👏others👏who👏have👏it👏worse👏down👏to👏lift👏the mselves👏up,👏which👏is👏disgusting👏behavior.👏Making👏f un👏of👏the👏rich👏is👏okay👏because👏they’re👏doing👏very👏 harmful👏things👏and👏hold👏a👏lot👏of👏power.👏Making👏fun 👏of👏queer👏people👏is👏not👏okay👏because👏we’re👏not👏doi ng👏anything👏wrong👏(and👏if👏you👏disagree👏here…👏well👏 have👏fun👏being👏a👏homophobe/transphobe)👏and👏we👏have👏very👏little👏power👏over👏any one👏else.👏It’s👏also👏extremely👏easy👏to👏remove👏slurs 👏from👏your👏vocabulary👏in👏order👏to👏avoid👏spreading👏 problematic👏ideas.👏If👏you👏think👏this👏is👏against👏yo ur👏“free👏speech,”👏you👏either👏lack👏the👏empathy👏of👏a 👏good👏person👏or👏you’re👏privileged👏as👏all👏fuck👏and👏 you👏need👏to👏do👏some👏learning.


Lastly,👏I👏want👏to👏talk👏about👏being👏an👏ally👏and👏cre ating👏an👏inviting👏environment👏for👏all👏sorts👏of👏peo ple.👏I👏will👏start👏off👏by👏saying👏that👏you’re👏not👏a👏 true👏ally👏(of👏any👏minority)👏if👏you👏do👏not👏fight👏to 👏stop👏others👏from👏saying👏harmful👏and👏problematic👏t hings.👏A👏LGBTQ👏ally👏will👏tell👏a👏friend👏not👏to👏subs titute👏the👏word👏“gay”👏for👏the👏word👏“stupid”👏and👏ex plain👏why👏it👏is👏problematic.👏A👏true👏ally👏would👏not 👏associate👏with👏homophobes👏or👏transphobes.👏Being👏a n👏ally👏is👏not👏just👏simply👏informing👏yourself👏and👏p reventing👏yourself👏from👏saying👏shitty👏things,👏but👏 actively👏fighting👏for👏us👏the👏way👏that👏we👏would.👏It ’s👏even👏easier👏to👏fight👏for👏us👏as👏a👏cishet👏person👏 because👏you👏have👏the👏advantage👏of👏people👏taking👏yo u👏seriously!👏Even👏if👏you👏have👏LGBTQ👏friends👏who👏th ink👏you’re👏alright,👏if👏you’re👏not👏fighting👏for👏the m👏(when👏the👏situation👏arises)👏when👏surrounded👏by👏c ishet👏people,👏you’re👏not👏an👏ally;👏you’re👏a👏coward. 👏If👏you👏care👏at👏all👏about👏having👏a👏more👏diverse👏pl ayerbase,👏you’ll👏take👏all👏of👏these👏things👏to👏heart .👏Women👏don’t👏want👏to👏play👏online👏games👏in👏which👏t hey’re👏constantly👏objectified👏and👏made👏the👏butt👏of 👏jokes.👏LGBTQ👏people👏don’t👏want👏to👏play👏with👏peopl e👏that👏hate👏them👏for👏things👏they👏have👏no👏control👏o ver,👏or👏with👏people👏who👏think👏they👏are👏weird👏or👏gr oss👏for👏these👏things.👏You👏have👏the👏ability👏to👏help 👏make👏Toribash👏a👏more👏inviting👏place👏for👏people👏of 👏all👏genders,👏races,👏sexualities,👏and👏religions.👏B eing👏a👏sexist/racist/homophobic/transphobic/antisemitic👏troll👏actively👏hinders👏our👏progress.👏T hink👏about👏your👏actions.


If👏you👏read👏the👏whole👏thing,👏thank👏you👏so👏much👏for 👏putting👏up👏with👏my👏rant.👏I👏didn’t👏originally👏inte nd👏for👏it👏to👏be👏a👏rant,👏but👏it👏just👏kinda👏came👏out 👏that👏way.👏I’m👏tired👏of👏all👏of👏the👏shit👏I👏have👏to👏 put👏up👏with👏ingame.👏I👏want👏my👏trans👏friends👏to👏fee l👏comfortable👏in👏the👏space.👏I👏want👏for👏them👏not👏to 👏have👏to👏hide👏who👏they👏are👏for👏fear👏of👏being👏ostra cized👏the👏way👏that👏I👏am.
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