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So I asked ishi out to some aikido
He said yes! And we got a private room and started experimenting. Totally not gay. After we figured out how to shovel, we started testing some counters.
Shovel Counter trial 1
Shovel Counter trial 2
I wont upload ishi's counter cause it didn't work... at all.

Then I tried my decap counter.
It didn't really work. So we pretended that it never happened.

Then we tried some rounds of no grab.
Round 1
Round 2

Then I went on to the forums and read this...
Originally Posted by dengue View Post
shovel is a move when you lower both arms and then raise right on next time
so be sure if it is before post it

Originally Posted by 2solid4snakes View Post
Shoveling: both arms down first turn and no matter what with other joints u may use em all but thats still showel ;p[/B]

And so ishi and I put it to the test.
Shovel test 1
Shovel test 2
Apparently in both those replays we did about 2 shovels each. Thats 4 shovels per replay. It was too intense for us so we stopped.

Anyway after that I got ishi'd pretty badly.
http://forum.toribash.com/attachment...1&d=1277447468
http://forum.toribash.com/attachment...1&d=1277447468

For anyone else who wants ishi, you cant have him. He's mine!
Attached Files
Shovel experiment.rpl (54.9 KB, 76 views)
shovel experiment 2.rpl (71.2 KB, 55 views)
No grab.rpl (38.3 KB, 39 views)
ishi doesn't like no grab.rpl (49.5 KB, 33 views)
shovel!.rpl (65.7 KB, 59 views)
shovel!s.rpl (52.2 KB, 54 views)
My perfect decap counter.rpl (30.2 KB, 53 views)
Last edited by Fish; Jun 25, 2010 at 08:48 AM.
Lol

Originally Posted by Fish
I wont upload ishi's counter cause it didn't work... at all.

upload it
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The thing with shovel counters is that if you don't do a normal opener on the first turn, it won't come to much use unless you know that your opponent is going to shovel.

I like to experiment with clap as opener. Sometimes a kick after clap works. It forces the foot on the ground to go down. If the shoveler still has power left after your kick attempt, you're kind of screwed.
Yes, it was very bad, my counter that is.

i was suprised at how effective fish's counter was, won't be shoveling him anytime soon D:


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#hi


Originally Posted by dengue View Post
I wont try to say that
too complex iguess

No need to be so rude here. Saying we are too stupid to understand isn't very nice.