Endurance Onslaught 4
Original Post
Stop penalizing lone betters!
Scenario:

I place a bet for 1000TC.
50 frames go by, nobody bets against me.
Suddenly I have 1000TC at risk for no reason.
If I lose, my money is gone, but goes to nobody.
There was never a chance for me to win money.

Conclusion:

Players with this in mind will bet less often because starting a bet is potentially just shredding TC with nobody getting rewarded.


Proposal:


If a bet is started, but there is no opposition, the participant(s) should be granted back their TC.
Generally, the op cancels bets. If they do not do that, then they owe you that tc back. Running a bet server means paying attention to everything and taking responsibility.
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The game does allow ops to change betframes, but they're not supposed to do that.
Last edited by Enclave; Jan 7, 2020 at 05:12 AM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
Running a bet server means paying attention to everything and taking responsibility..



Betting can also occur in servers not designated to betting.
Originally Posted by EikoBiko View Post


Betting can also occur in servers not designated to betting.

Yes, but that's at the expense of an op since the global rules apply to private servers only to an extent. One example of betting that isn't supported are etournaments. ES will not cancel them; ergo, you place them at your own risk.
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Nah you should definitely be refunded with no opposition, I expect the only reason it's not already done like that is lack of feature importance.
Being refunded when there are no counters sounds good to me. Will also help to curve confusion as to when an OP can cancel bets as that would be automatic.

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Originally Posted by Enclave View Post
Generally, the op cancels bets. If they do not do that, then they owe you that tc back. Running a bet server means paying attention to everything and taking responsibility.

http://forum.toribash.com/showthread.php?t=491136 Betting Server Rules and Guidelines


While I would say they should cancel bets and pay attention to 'if' BOTH sides have bets, they do not have to pay you back.

Cancelbets
If there is ANY amount of tc bet on BOTH people you may not cancelbets. Once the money has been bet you are accepting that you may lose this tc in it's entirety. Cancelbets is only to be used if there are no counters at all., but is at the hosters own discretion.

Just clearing something up.
However, an automated feature that just sends the TC back would be more than a welcomed feature that I'm sure everyone would agree with. Get rid of that command (or admin only for whatever reason) and make it automated? Would that be possible?


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Originally Posted by ed View Post
... Get rid of that command (or admin only for whatever reason) and make it automated? Would that be possible?

There are some situations where /cancelbets is used/needed, though: for example, if a game in a bet server needs to be reset for whatever reason, that can’t be done unless bets are cancelled.
betting could really be upgraded i guess
sometimes people outbet you with lower amounts and stuff
you could higher the min bet, but all this stuff is mostly for betting rooms only
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