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I think many parents strike their children out of a lack of being able to relive their stress somewhere else. When you keep frustration bottled inside you about other things, you tend to take it out on other people, more often people that you care about. Also, many adults who hit their kids where probably hit or whipped as a child (My mother knew kids who were whipped at her age.)
Getting a smack every once in a while is ok, but only if you do something really bad or stupid on purpose (Like key-scratching the symbol "8=>" into your teacher's car or punching a hole in your wall because you were forced to eat healthy crap food or something). Anything on accident should only recieve verbal discipline or warning or a talk-to (Which was what I recieved when I did something on accident as a kid).
The difference among people with this issue is where they draw the line between physical discipline and child abuse.
Getting a smack every once in a while is ok, but only if you do something really bad or stupid on purpose (Like key-scratching the symbol "8=>" into your teacher's car or punching a hole in your wall because you were forced to eat healthy crap food or something). Anything on accident should only recieve verbal discipline or warning or a talk-to (Which was what I recieved when I did something on accident as a kid).
The difference among people with this issue is where they draw the line between physical discipline and child abuse.
Last edited by SilentAssassin; Feb 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM.
Originally Posted by Addicter
First we broadcast such "child-unfriendly" comercials and then we wonder why the birth-rate is decreasing(made me laugh anyway...)
What a mad world...
I hope the birth-rate continues to decrease. Space is a huge issue and we should be stopping dickheads from breeding.
Originally Posted by m0o
Discipline is necessary. Verbal discipline is not always adequate.
I don't care what the hippies say - I want my child to stay in line when out in society, not being in jail when they are 18, thanks.
If you take behaviourist theory, you will see that physical discipline is a punisher, rather than negative reeinforcement. There are certainly better ways to "correct" child behaviour (Negative reinforcement), but neither behaviourism or I think that punishers should never be used. Sometimes you need to use a punisher.
Should you smack someone elses kids? Nope!
So what you're saying is if I don't hit my children they will end up in prison? I would be far worried about it working out the opposite way around, if you want to talk about extremes of a situation.
I can see, your point, but I still disagree, there is enough alternatives for it to be avoided, completely. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.
I'm ok with it because it does work (most of the time) it only when parent get out of hand and use unreasonable force or use other shit to hit their kids.
Originally Posted by Fee
So what you're saying is if I don't hit my children they will end up in prison? I would be far worried about it working out the opposite way around, if you want to talk about extremes of a situation.
I can see, your point, but I still disagree, there is enough alternatives for it to be avoided, completely. I guess it's just a matter of opinion.
Part of it is a learning experience as well.
If you do not teach your child about physical as well as mental consequences (i.e. being spanked vs "time out"). If your child goes out into the real world assuming that time-outs are the most severe punishments are "timeouts", he's in for a rude awakening when a bunch of skinheads beat him to a pulp.
Regarding people who beat their children excessively; they should go to jail.
Personally, I would use the bump system (a system of "bumps" where you make students aware of their actions (mostly through reinforcers until very high stages of bump - I think the highest actually); its a teaching technique really, but it's essentially discipline and applicable to your own child.
